posted Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:35
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Starting new cycle immediately after PCT?
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Guys i knw that this is not right and i shouldnt do this , But i really need to do it , this is my life , i know this is risk and it can mess up my life forever but i wanna go for competition and i need to get in shape that i want it asap , i cant wait for four months off and start my new cycle that time ,!i know this is big risk but is there anyway to reduce this risk if i wanna start my another cycle sometimes sooner than 4 months off..//
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Looks like some what of an older thread but since I'm new here I'm throw in my 2cc's first off whoever still follows time on plus pct =time off is still living in the late 90s. Do bloodwork nothing else can determine whether or not you should come back on. If your body is reached homeostasis you're good to get back on. With that said if you're serious about use why even come off? Just blast and cruise instead it's more unhealthy to cycle on and off back and fourth than just to go the trt route with a few short blasts...
RustyhookerYou should really read this dudes age and the dozens of posts that are all "image" related before spouting nonsence. This is not one of those "bros-sites" where lil boys are freely given info.
"Bro-sites?" Not sure what you mean by that.
so 90% of steroid/ eroid users are living in the nineties???./ be real mate its common knowledge/practice, if he wants to recover that is!!! if he wants to go the trt route then thats his choice!! agreed on bloodwork though
All I'm saying is, that time on plus pct = time off. Is a old way of thinking. Not one person is the will recover the same way. For example a 20yo is gonna recover faster than a 30yo. And not two ppl will recover the same way. Blood work is the way to go I'm glad at least we both agree with that. As far as staying on maybe it's cause I'm older and I see this a lifestyle and not a hobby. One thing is for certain though you will cause more harm to your health by coming on and off constantly as opposed to just staying on and monitoring bloodwork.
pfft first of all 'congratulations' on steroids being your lifestyle, im really, really proud of you!!! well done. your contradicting your advice though! you say a 2oyo is going to recover quicker than a 30yo, unfortunatley, this is far from the truth! you have no real evidence to prove this, as you say no two people recover the same, so maybe the 20yo screws his body for life and doesnt bounce back and the 30yo bounces back in a month or two, who knows??? not you. this is about keeping him of trt mate, not telling him to stay on forever and get bloods! absolutley ridiculous to advise/promote that!!!!! and in future please dont make your little sly comments to me saying i do this for a hobby mate , you dont know me, and i dont want to know you! have fun injecting yourself for the rest of your life!!! im heaps jealous bro, take care
Yeah I'd love to see some evidence, studies or something to confirm this. I do believe you though.
For the mental/emotional aspect alone, PCT causes instability in many people which can affect your life in a negative way, relationship issues, poor job or school performance (possibly preventing you from getting that promotion, or getting that A+ on your test) and the list goes on. The mental aspect alone makes TRT healthy. Living a happy, stable life is what it's all about
RustyhookerBecause TRT is permanent. Long after the "coolness" of being huge is long gone he'll still be doing weekly shots and bloods for life. Without trt at his youngster lil age it's gonna have a dampner effect on everything he does.
well i hope being on TRT for life is part of your 5 year plan...some guys are okay with that. either way, goodluck and stay safe
dude, time on + pct= new cycle if your lucky, you dont need the gear increase your calories by 1000 and get some creatine or something, you dont look 255 either, im alot bigger than you, if you keep hitting the gas to hit your goals you will end up on it for life and die young, then if you do decide to come off completely, you will be an emotional shriveled up wreck.
I blew you out on other posts, ive blown you out in PM..... here we go again huh!..... this is NOT a post asking for advice.. its a post informing us of your future actions.
Get on with it... hit the pins!, but do us all a favour and quit posting from now on...... thanks.
castroajok man.
for one you have not taken the proper time off yet. second there is no point in staying on until you get your pro card. If you can't gain enough mass and be ripped enough to compete now it's not going to change anything if you stay on. you have to be real with yourself. do you have what it takes to be a pro? because once you make that choice to stay on you cant go back.
RustyhookerYet another post.
You know you're going to be a trt patient. You made your choice long ago. You won't listen to us so just do it. Find one of the competitors here at eroids and jump in both feet. Find out exactly how they do it.
That's what you want to hear and it's yoyr choice....not ours. Lead your life.
No.
is there anything else to be said? Pretty self explanatory here. If you are not willing to heed the advice, or at least be open minded to it, why ask?
AnonReduce risk...no there isnt.....yoyr on your way to being a trt patient
Yea u can do it.....is it advised? No
No stats
No previous experience
Guess we are all wrapped up here
Jay cutler was not mr. O in a year
SMH.
What was your last cycle? What and how long was your pct? Did you have a precycle lab and have you had labs drawn after pct?
These important questions you should be asking because its all relative. You already know what the answer is and you know what most vets are going to tell you. so why are you asking? My advice is if your going to take foolish risks then be as smart as you can about it. If you had labs done recently that is helpful but only if you had precycle labs to compare them to. Otherwise you really don't have a clear picture of what's going on with your bodies recovery. For instance you could have test levels at 550 which is within range....you think great my test is good and so are my lh, fsh and estradiol I'm good to go. The problem is for you at your age just prior to cycle you might have been 890 for your regular test level and you haven't recovered fully. I would get labs drawn about 4 weeks after pct and see. If you didn't have precycle labs drawn then I would wait another 4 weeks and draw some more before starting another cycle. That will at least give you some data to go on.
You have made several posts regarding this same topic recently. Seems as though you are hoping someone will tell you what you want to hear even though several have told you the opposite. I really doubt anyone is going to tell you what you are hoping for.
Seems as though you need to get your mindset right before you make a choice that will likely effect the rest of your life
how old are yo bro? how many cycles? wondering your experience. because if you are old enough you have been doing this 5-10 years i would consider blasting a cruising. but starting anew cycle right after pct is going to supress you a lot you wil be very shut down and will probably end up on trt anyhow. you have your whole life bro take the proper time off to recover keep gains and then a nice long eq cycle or so for 20 weeks thats what i did after a long hiatus from bb. i came back and wanted to get big then and FAST i wanted to cycle and cycle and cycle. but i didnt am very glad my dick still works. i did a short 8 weeker took 12 off. then did a 20 week eq cycle i saw awesome gains/.
thats great you want to compete but there will still be competitions next year and 5 years from now. take your time cycle correctly with proper time off. bodybuilding is a journey bro its going to take a long time wait till you have the size you need no need to rush into it. you have your whole life to cycle IF you do things right bro and you dont end up going to the doc every two weeks for the rest of your life and getting an injection. and not being able to have kids..
I love this. Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint. Take your time and listen to all the veterans. This forum is made so people can be well educated and you joined so please take their advice. Sure your decisions may not affect you now, but in ten or twenty years you'll be regretting the fact that you didn't listen.