+ 9 Beginner Cycle 1 or 2: Test E with Prop taper
I can't emphasize enough about the importance of providing stability with your dosing schedules. With a half life of 10.5 days on Enanthate (you will find conflicting information regarding half lifes everywhere), a single 250mg injection will be at half strength at 10.5 days. That's a drop of 125. Now taking into consideration the compounded plasma levels from the multiple injections, as well as the half life, we arrive at the progressive drops in plasma levels once injections have ceased. These sudden drops in your hormonal balance, can yeild a host of side affects. This cycle is designed to offset set the sudden decreases due to the fading enanthate, and provide for a more gradual decrease leading into PCT.
It's called the "prop taper". The week following the last long-ester pin, you introduce the short-ester prop at a dose of 100mg EOD. Because of the relatively short life the prop ester provides, injections must be administered much more frequently. Likewise, the release into the blood stream is more rapidly than that of the longer esters. Therefore, you get an uptick in plasma test as the enanthate is fading out. PCT starts 3 days after last prop pin.
When it comes to EOD pinning, please click HERE to refer to the thread on pin sizes for beginners prior to starting.
For clarification on AI's, please click HERE
Any other questions, feel free to ask here on thru PM.
P.S.
The AI can be started as soon as day 1, if you choose. For some people that is more beneficial. The exogenous test being pinned will be susceptible to aromatase (even with the AI), so stable e2 levels can be achieved sooner this way. However, the guidelines above are set at a point where e2 levels begin to build up to higher within the normal range (10-50 ng/dl). Therefore, it is recommended to start your AI no later than this point in order to keep e2 from climbing out of range. Sooner won't hurt.
Personally, I believe it's more important for the beginner to wait until week 3 to start. This is so that they can experience the mild sides they get when e2 fluctuates; I.e., acne, body temps, sleep disturbances, etc. this way, they can learn their body better and see the sides subside as the AI takes control. To me, that is important.
| Week | Test E | Test Prop | Aromasin | Clomid | Nolva |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||||
| 2 | 500mg | ||||
| 3 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 4 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 5 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 6 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 7 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 8 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 10 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 11 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 12 | 500mg | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 13 | 100 EOD | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 14 | 100 EOD | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 15 | 100 EOD | 6.25-12.5 ED | |||
| 16 | 12.5 ED | 100 ED | 20 ED | ||
| 17 | 12.5 ED | 100 ED | 20 ED | ||
| 18 | 6.25 ED | 50 ED | 10 ED | ||
| 19 | 6.25 ED | 50 ED | 10 ED |
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Im changing my cycle to this. I like it man. So glad I came across this.
Right on bro. Go join the beginner cycle group. I'm just getting started with rearranging some things but there's goo info in there and more to come.
I actually modified the prop taper in the group posts to reflect a true taper. Since the goal is to reduce drastic fluctuations, the modified version is more appropriate. 100 eod would still have your levels way too high for a taper.
Nice post. Looks like a no nonsense straight up first cycle with the added benefit of a taper towards the end. I'm going to run this for my first cycle when I'm ready. Speaking of which...I'm getting closer to my goal. The diligence is paying off.
right on, brother. this is a great run for a beginner. a lot of people lose sight of what can be accomplished thru a conservative approach with the gear and a more aggressive one in the gym and kitchen.
True. I see a lot of people cycling and it takes their 3rd or 4th to figure those things out. I'm going to avoid going that route. If you don't eat right and train right, you won't grow right with or without gear. Agreed!
AnonThird week of the test prop taper should it be 50 mgs eod or stay at 100 eod
You can do either. Since I've written this log, I've become a little fond of stepping the dose down the 3rd week.
What about HCG with this cycle?
Not necessary IMO, but won't hurt. Hcg does convert to estrogen tho. So, more AI is needed while using it than without.
Oh yea and what about Proviron with it?
Test only brother
AnonLooks awesome everything in place good luck and +1 from me!
Thanks bro. This, however, was posted to provide a reference for beginners, not myself.
Great plan,
Ran this exact cycle for my first. I was extremely please with the results. +1 bud for taking the time. I'll definitely be sending some peeps down this way.
That's awesome bro. I think a lot of beginners easily come into this world with the mindset that more is better. Great results can be reached with test manipulation cycles.
this will make a great reference link for beginners.. should be bookmarked and pinned at the top
Thanks brother. I'll post more as time goes by.
Good cycle plan bro.
Thanks bro. Just throwing it out there for the newer guys I'm running into in the cycle log section. Sometimes having it outlined makes it easier for them to understand our advice.