+ 22 My experience using Tren to early
So with all the talk of all the young guys and first time steroid users coming in here wanting to use Trenbolone as there first or 2nd cycle. I thought I would start a thread were some of the vets and people that have used Tren can share there experience with the side effects to show that Tren is a compound not to take lightly, and so they can see why we always say NO to using it so young and so early and why they should stay clear of till they have had lots of cycles under there belt.
So I will start 9 years ago I was at my gym talking to one of the bigger guys there and got to asking questions about steroids and how to get big. The guy tells me how if I want to do a cycle he can hook me up with the best mass building cycle around ect...
So I say hook it up I wanted to be big I wanted it fast just like a lot of other young guys. too days later he hands me a few bottles of Test-P and a few bottles of Tren-A and some and tells me to inject 1.5ccs ed so I do as he said and that's when I seen for my self the bad of Tren when you are not ready.
Ok week one of injecting every thing was ok coughed a lot and was sweating a little more but thought every thing was ok and the first week it was.
2nd-8 weeks is wear the parts the gym guy did not tell me about started to happen
I was getting crazy Insomnia I could never fall a sleep with out self medicating my self
Excess Sweating at night and through out the day. I could never drink enough water my body felt like I was doing cardio even when I was not.
I had out of control Anxiety which I never had I was all ways worried about every thing and could not figure out why
I had Loss of Libido at the time me and my girl were just hooking up a few times a day and out of no were I was never in the mood which sucked by the way lol
And the worst part was the Anger I was all ready a pissed off kid but I new when to let go and walk away well that all ended on tren.
I was always in the mood to fight and quick to snap and I am sure some of that had to do with not sleeping much at all.
My life took a turn for the worst in the middle of that cycle I was with my girl in the car and some guy in a convertible kept saying things to her and talking shit to me I lost it could not control my self I stopped at a red light got out of the car and beat the shit out of him. I was so pissed I did not see the cop a few cars back and after that uncontrollable rage I did a year in jail and a year on house arrest over something I would have never done before using tren and thats why I do not want to see any one get there self in the situation I did ITS NOT WORTH IT AND YOU NEVER NO WHAT SIDES YOU MIGHT GET thanks for reading my story guys.
It would be nice if other guys on here will share as well I am so tired of seeing young guys wanting tren so fast and that is the only reason I shared a little of myself on here hope it changes the minds of a few
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I sweat more than a whore in church when on trenbolone. Insomnia was never much of an issue. I would have some bouts of extreme anger. I have hurt a few people during episodes of roid rage. I am normally a very calm mild manner person so extreme aggression is completely out of character for me.
Bump!
Great old post that needs to be revisited!!
I got divorced after being with somebody for 15 years after running Tren the first time!
TrenLifeFails
jms40im not advocating beginners use tren but thought id respond on what i been reading...im 48...ive been using aas for 26 years....i do not think tren would be anyworse for anyone than anything else....what many new users i have seen and dealt with is the idea of excessive amounts = fast gains....
not to sound like a know it all but if someone is seriously considering starting aas go to doc get you test and free test numbers use that as your base and since your just begining use low low amounts im even talking about 1/2 or even 1/4 ml of test or...tren...whatever you want....unless your base numbers reflect test deficiency beginners will respond greatly to low doses....i have only had good experiences from tren.....vets can be good friends...i can assure you some of minor bad effects of tren can be controlled by extremally high protein consumption as it is a superb protein synthesizer...if you have probs with sleeplesness and sweats up the protein significantly and i assure you side effects will become no effects...remember beginers get your t levels tested if not deficient and have good levels start small and gradually build up....hope this helps...dont feat tren just go easy and build up to level of strength and size you desire...
I'm at the end of my current cycle thinking ahead about what I would like to do next. Naturally I'm reading about injectables other than test, because I want to go harder. Safe to say this forum has talked me out of using Tren.
I used tren ace b4 and had similar issues I was advised not too by other embers not to try it yet but I was curious to know and I'm stubborn or more so I like to learn the hard way lol. I soon realize you have to respect it respect it. Yes I felt like superman , yes I was ready to snap on anything that moved. I could not tell I was crazy aggressive bcuz I'm naturally a aggressive guy but it took less for buttons to be pushed booom! Here boom! There.
Wifey started telling me that it was getting to be a bit much good thing I have a good woman or I would be
In divorce court with judge Judy lol.
The point is tren in my opinion is and can be danger in the wrong hands
I just recently went thru tthis mistake, on a hybrid of tren e,ace and hex@50mg each eod. first 2 wks were kind of ok, just no sleep and total loss of appetite. Not to dangerous but totally counter productive. wks 3n4 the fun began. it took me 5 mins of agony to take a piss and i could only do it twice a day. then the anxiety started, a little at first but then i thought what if i had an std,probably had kidney stones maybe even a dangerous infection. one day i had an especially bad few hrs at work and an indesccribable fear rushed over me,a heat like i never felt, i could hardly talk, couldn't stop shaking and clenched my jaw so hard i broke some of my teeth. i managed to say call ann ambulance and a few mins later it started to subside. i got blood and urine test plus a cat scan and absolutely nothinng was wrong. no std, no infection no kidney stones no anything. i came on hhere a few days later talking about my cycle and some guys told me go on pct immediately. it kind of clicked all the way thenn whhat the problem was and since i stopped takingg it all the symtems pretty much stopped. Probably got very lucky.
I am glad to see people are still posting there real life experiences in here I feel it shows the younger guys what could happen and not just a bunch of shit they read on a site or book keep it up guys
Just want to thank all those who tell the beginners don't jump on tren because I was going to on my last 2nd cycle some tren e too + I was running deca so it won't always fall on death ears
eryximachusI missed this story ages ago.
I too wish I never touched tren. It made me the biggest asshole, and while I am fortunate I did not spend time in jail, my career and life have been compromised somewhat. I too lost a woman who was amazing, and I kick myself every week because of it.
The stuff works very well, but you risk so much just to look really good for a few months.
AnonSomeone downvoted everyone here? Was wondering why I lost a karma point haha. trolls.
AnonYea wtf fuckin trolls man
I up voted ya bro
AnonWhoever did the downvoting here didn't have the ability to affect karma it seems I got downvoted somewhere else, meh whatever I don't really care just thought it was funny. As long as I have at least 50 to ping trolls and idiots for karma I'm content lol
Reading this post and hearing the negative sides is pretty incredible when you consider down every local gym guys who have never been on gear before are going straight on tren ! I've used and had basic sides but luckily not aggression just sweats and insomnia so very lucky !
Was training with a guy only just started on gear last week who's on parabolon and tri tren nothing else ! Jesus the advice some people get is horrendous
People should be made to read these kind of post before even thinking of trying it
AnonOh sure... Here we go. Ran a test E / Tren E cycle at hardly 22 years old. Twelve whole weeks I have no idea why I didn't drop it.
Night sweats and insomnia - unbearable. I'd sleep for 1.5-3 hours then wake up DRENCHED in sweat every single time then have to eat something big and carby to fall back asleep at all only to once again wake up drenched in sweat even with the AC turned down to 65 with a fan blowing on me. I'm talking a puddle not just a little sweat. Couldn't ever drink enough water I was certainly passed 2 gallons a day and still after every "nap" I'd be pissing dark cloudy sludge.
Sex drive? What sex drive. I had no sex that entire cycle except during the first maybe 2-3 weeks with a girl I very quickly drove away, just a random slut type anyways cared more about my gains. I was taking caber and did not have erectile dysfunction I was just simply way too mental to go out and get a girl. I felt like a mental patient. My thoughts weren't just violent they were EVIL. I had nightmares of my Ex who I lost to addiction, being raped only to arrive too late to save her. Just watched her suffer in my dreams. Another one that comes to mind was having the world under some sort of attack by demonic ( I'm not religious just the only word I can use to describe here ) beings ripping women and children apart spraying their innards everywhere. In no dreams was I ever the subject of whatever was happening I simply watched others suffer... I'm the type of person you can talk shit to all day and it doesn't bother me at all but say something about someone I love and you're in for a bad night on or off gear. It really fucked my head up bad. These dreams happened more times than I care to remember those are NOT the only ones I had.
Anxiety - HORRIBLE anxiety. Any time I'd leave the house to go to the store, bank, gym, anything I medicated up with Xanax because that's the only way I could suppress the thoughts of how to murder people who might in some way do me wrong in the situation I was in - my mind wouldn't stop. You know those thuggish types that run in groups and talk trash because of exactly that - they're in a group? Not so tough when they see the face of a man truly willing to kill them. THIS IS NOT MY PERSONALITY. I'm no hardass toughguy wannabe never have been even as a teenager never do I get into pissing contests this was purely the drugs.
Not to mention I was a complete dick to my family and friends and didn't care. Ended up isolating the whole time to avoid further damaging my relationships.
Then as in detroitnate's experience I also for the first time since I was a little kid fighting the bully in highschool actually put my hands on someone with serious intent to harm anyways. People were pushing eachother around at a party just drunk stupidness, for some reason a TINY little runt maybe 160 soaking wet decides to punch a friend of mine in the back of the head. Just a sloppy drunken punch no damage + like I said he's skin and bone. I was not drinking. Saw nothing but red in tunnel vision. Had no idea what happened had to be told by other people afterwards. Apparently I ran across the room and full powered this little runt in the mouth sent him flying into a wall and went on to continue beating the semi-unconscious bag of bones but was THANKFULLY restrained by several people so he only got hit once... lost two of his front teeth though - I know because we picked them up off the carpet afterwards.... not to mention the sheer volume of blood involved.
^ This shit isn't me! In any normal scenario since the little man was no real threat to anyone I simply would have diffused the situation.... so yeah that's the abridged version of why I'll never run tren again. If I ever do it'll be ace for a shoot or a show & I'll have pre-loaded prami up to a higher end dose so I don't go postal during the cut... I could never justify or even wish to justify recreational use not for me.
This was only at 400/wk fellas. After about 7 weeks the sides went down a lot which is I think why I finished the cycle.... even so fuck all that. Not to mention my post cycle bloods showed my lipids were wrecked and I took loads of support supplements.
I have just finished a six week ride on parabolan (tren hex) and for the first time ever it has been an horrible experience, all the bad sides i normally do not get this time i did! and harsh they were i can report...... i usually sleep like a fkn baby, bombs going off wouldn't wake me normally but my sleep as been fkn terrible this time, sweats! jesus i have been sat around shirtless and still sweating like a fkn whore on valentines day lol..... bad tempered no! just pure fkn evil wanting to kill everything in sight, getting pissed off with myself for even the slightest thing then slipping into real sour moods for the rest of the day.
NO fun whatsoever lemme tell ya!..... only thing i can put all this down to is that i am over-heavy at the moment and not in the sharp condition i usually am when i run tren, the extra few pounds i have gained i reckon i could have done with deca and had a smooth ride... the last time i ran it when i was this heavy was in the early 90s (270lb then) and i cannot recall having a ride this rough so maybe its an age thing i am not sure or maybe i am just in a better place when i run it when leaner, when i drop back below 250lbs i will try it again just to satisfy my curiosity... but for now i am fkn glad its ended.
Stats?
54 in 11 weeks.
6.1
263lbs
BF%....around 13/14 at the moment but thats intentional with the heavy bulk phase.
Penis..... Heavily scarred.
A/hole...... Very fkn tight.
LMFAO........ are you happy now you know i am over 18 ?????
Omg lmmfao
Lol. Very happy.
Hey just a question. I noticed that masteron really cuts a lot of the tren sides for me. Does it do that for you too?
Not on this run bro, it hit me like a fkn hammer...... when have you ever heard me complain about a run in the past?... fkn never hey bro, i put this down to being far heavier than i have been in a while, and with the PEP stack involved i think i would have been way better using deca for the nandrolone portion of the stack..... also i have never used HEX before on a 7000 cal diet so i reckon its a mixture of these things together that that gave birth to the devil lol...... lifes boring if i dont learn something every day so yeah i will just add this experience to the list for when i eventually write the fkn book lol.
I have one too, (although I am hesitant to ask) here goes. As strong as we all know tren is, couldn't it be ran at very light dose instead of the normal 300-500mg a week? One would think even at 25mg per day or EOD that small amount would still have an effect, as well as giving a small taste of the sides it may bring.
But I have no experience with it, you guys that are experts may know the answer.
Absolutely. I know tread-m told me rthat he had very good gains at just 50 mg eod.
Just goes to show you how you never know what's around the corner. I've had tren runs with zero issues, and I've had lower dosed runs with several problems. One thing I do know is I rarely enjoy a tren cycle like I do other compounds.
Bummer, just proves that you never know what can happen with this compound. Even the snake charmer himself still get bitten every once and a while. ;)
YEP... and ive been running HEX since 1981 bro............... just goes to show.
Said it before i will say it again...... TREN is the devils piss.
AnonThank you I've been looking for a post like this for awhile an finally came across exactly what I was looking for. A lot of awesome info throughout my dumbass did a test e tren e eq blend for my third cycle and everything was good for the first two weeks then the sides came the bloody nose insomnia and I stopped and had to wait for the ether to clear so even tho I was off had to wait another 2 weeks till sides started to subside. Now i know when its time to move onto tren I'll stick with tren a but for now I'll test out all the other compounds. Next compound on the list is mast lookin forward to that one.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI don't know what I could add in the years since this post was written. Tren hasn't changed. I've gotten a little older and a wee bit more experienced.
The main reason I discourage it for inexperienced users is because it is so damn pysho-active in comparison to just about any other roid out there and the sides are not predictable.
I have gone into Tren rages and destroyed the living room furniture that included busting up an expensive piano, gone to bed awakened in shock with only the vaguest memory of what happened. I was living alone at the time - what if my current wife and kids were around at the time and got to see dad do that?
At the end of some long Tren cycles - it's feels like you have a drug addiction and u are separated from your junk cold turkey - the depression is so deep I've had fleeting moments - maybe micro seconds where I headed over to my gun safe got the chills and when back and sat down.
Forget not sleeping, the sweats, the heart palpitations and the usual things folk complain about - I can laugh at these little inconveniences.
On the bright side, I've run Tren in ultra high doses with no sides whatsoever and stunning results on many many an occasion. But, every time I start a Tren cycle, I just don't know which way it is gonna go.
That is the honest reason I discourage it. Nothing more than that. I still use it. Eroids is not an advanced BB site and we were all recently reminded again that we have a lot of casual users here. The MOD team has to draw a clear bright line as to what the whole community's best interests are from the advice we give.
So, we don't run around in the open part of the site giving slin protocols and we don't tell folk to turn to DNP if they just gotta burn that fat quick - do we?
You train right, eat right, and use chemicals responsibly and u will achieve your goals. There have been a lot of great physiques that I would trade mine for long before Trenbolone was even popular.
sportbikeriderJ9Crazy stories, I ran tren at 75mg/ED for 8 weeks for my first cycle. I only had minor insomnia and night sweats two times. Other than that, no real rage or emotional issues.
Sounds to me like your and angry person in general and maybe the tren just pushed you over the edge. Maybe you were taking too much. I've been on plenty of tren cycles and never felt like I was out of control. In the gym I just feel godly and yes after i hit a heavy set I do kinda rage out. I just feel like yelling for some reason. I was in the airport about a month ago and some dude called my girl a white bitch. I took my jacket off and told the dude that I would break him and he's not worth my time. He turned around like a little pussy and I laughed. I do have anger issues but I see them more when I'm off cycle. I honestly believe that using tren early for me gave me experience with it and it helped me learn.
kurt78I'll share my first time with Tren A and I am not saying this is good or bad. I'm just saying this is what happened to me. I was at a point a few years back where I just felt like i was Plateau and couldn't get any stronger. I knew nothing of Steroids yet, but I was roofing with this guy who was jacked and he told everybody he was on them cause it wasn't like you couldn't tell anyways. Well I asked him one day and he got me Tren A and thats it. I didn't know anything and all he said is you'll grow off that stuff. I only did 200 mg a week for 8 weeks and I grew for sure. I could taste it every time in my mouth and this stuff was strong. I had no side effects like acne, sweating, or lack of sleep. I slept good really. I felt a little amped up i guess is all. I don't recommend doing just Tren A alone either and haven't done it alone since I've educated myself over the years since. I was a complete Newbie and thats how it affected me. The funny thing is though the last two weeks at the 7 week mark, I decided to throw in 30 mg of D-bol just to finish off and BANG... I had these huge pimples busting out on my back and they were painful. Tren did nothing to me with side effects, but after like 5 days on the D-bols I was like DAMN. I don't do cycles like this anymore and wish that wasn't how i first learned but the moral of the story is that Tren was the first and only product I ran for two months and it did not cause any side effects but somethng like a couple D-bols a day cause monster zits. so everyone is different I suppose and you have to do a trial and error and finds whats best for your body.
AnonIf there are any young men reading this, your receptors are so good right now, you should capitalize on making gains with smaller doses of less dramatic gear. Just 10mg of dbol, some deca and test and you will get KILLER gains. Why not use these safer compounds up until it is time to move on?
I think I was 50 the first time I used tren and i dont get near the positive effects on tren as I use to get using less when I was younger. Why not save this shit as a last resort? Remember its a marathon not a sprint. save this kind of shit for when you have exhausted other means or have got to a point in life where 'youth' is no longer with you
I'm running tren ace at 100mg/d with prop 30mg/d and its my second cycle. I have not experienced any insomnia, night sweats, anger issues, acne, lactating nipples, limp dick, hair loss, or any of the other shit you read about. I'm almost 6 weeks in, and up 15+ pounds, looking the best I've ever been, and leaning out at the same time.
So yes, I broke all the rules by running this shit on my second go around, and am not advising others to follow in my footsteps, but I am glad I did. I researched it well and knew the potential problems I could run into which is why I ran ace so it could clear my system faster if I negatively reacted, and had caber on hand in case my libido went to shit or I started milking. Luckily I am one of the few who aren't affected by the side effects of this liquid gold.
Just don't want the record books to say tren will fuck everyone up no matter what, because that obviously isn't the case. Just my two cents.
My 2 cents:
I'm on my 4th cycle but first tren cycle. I'm hitting sustanon 750mg per week, with tren 75ed and 200mg tren enanthate per week.
On week 8 now: only sides are sweating. a lot of sweating. No rage, anger, aggression outside of the gym or the bedroom. sex drive is fucking amazing, getting 8-9 hours sleep a night waking up every morning feeling rested and refreshed.
Strength is going up on everything, size has gone up, I have also lost 4% Body fat in this 8 weeks in addition to adding 10lbs of mass. no water retention issues either, no prolactin issues, nothing.
DECA on the other hand FUCKS ME UP. I ran deca 3rd cycle. I did everything in the books perfect: high test dose low deca, HCG, proviron, caber, prami, adex, EVERYTHING. Zero libido most the whole cycle even on 100mg proviron per day and 2mg caber per week. Balls literally shrinked from kiwis to fucking almonds. The PCT was hell, completely shut down. I had night sweats every night on deca 10 times worse than tren. I had aggression and acne issues. I had some bloating and high BP as well. (strength and size gains were excellent I must admit which I kept most of it) however that cycle was a constant battle of side effects, unlike my tren cycle which I am running high dose test and high dose tren.
SO yea everyone is different. Personally tren does not effect me in any negative manner. It's like tren and my body are soulmates, I react better to tren than any other steroid I have taken.
I think people just need to watch out for 19-nor testosterone steroids. In my experienced tren is my angel steroid and deca is the demon
This is what I'm talking about. Someone not afraid to say they've had success running tren. Great story man, love hearing from other dudes on similar experiences.
Crazy how deca fucked you up but tren is your soulmate lmao. So true, everyone is different. I'd throw you some thumbs but I'm a newb ass bitch here lol. Thanks for sharing bro.
im bumping this cuz i feel younger guys planning to use tren as a first cycle need to see this. ive already seen too many in my short time here wanting to do it
My experience in the past was from growing extra hair where i didn't need it to thinning hair where I did need it. Took several months for my hair to feel from fine to coarse again. I'd adapted to sleep with a towel under me. I grew acne on my chest which never happens and after a few weeks half the acne on chest was white filled puss. The drive however was incredible, one of the best. You're sweatin bullets and bustin out monster sets lookin and feeling like a machine.
There was a point where my girl claims i was acting like a bitch over the stupidest things.
I didn't have enough auxillary to bring me back weeks after my cycle and ended in the biggest slump. It sucked ass. A local Dr. Actually persribed me 100mg pw of cypionate just to build me up again on a 10 week plan. I've had another successful cycle since then and now, and here i am again ready to take the plunge into Tren E again. going to drop the dose down to 300mg vs 400+ from recent experience with Ace.
Let me point out thst durring that cycle i was also taking a lot of proviron and Dbol. Thoes two compounds could itself have played a big role with the hair shit. This time its just Test, and tren comming up.
To sum up i think this compound can bring out the worst traits of a person. And everyones is a little different. You know like there are happy drunks and mean drunks, honest drunks, and idiot drunks. Yeah something like that. The Tren will pull foward the type of person you are. With intensity...of course. I myself was pissy, and agitated. Like on the rag at times. Shit i thinkbi cried one day! LOL.
IronCladdlook im just not getting some of the below statements. "dont even "think" about usin tren unless your an experienced tren user." WTF..lol..that statement is ass backwards
All this preach about dont use it too early or know how to use it responsibly. WELL someone has got to start somewhere when they are ready to use it.
All this do your research, research, research. Wll i dont see shit on the boards about how to "begin" using it responsibly. All this hellfire to scare ppl away, when some are gonna do it anyways. It seems more detrimental to "not" teach how to use it properly and preach about how bad it is.
There are plenty of posts on this board that give the good and bad. Both ends if the spectrum from a handful of different members. I didn't see anyone say how bad it is. They said how bad it COULD BE
well I posted this so guys can see what I went through when using tren before I ever used any other compound and how not knowing what can happen can some times have a bad effect on you.
I also wanted others to post there good or bad stories of tren. so if you think tren is great for a first time user post why you think so thats what this thread was for.
GearofWarNice story, and thanks for sharing. Just to play devils advocate for a moment here: Why is Tren treated with such polarity? I mean, some users LOVE being a Tren God, whilst others have horror stories such as the OP here. And also, what difference does it make how long you've run other compounds before running Tren? Does your body build a tolerance to AAS like opiates? For example I started using Vike 10's every now and again and eventually worked up to oxy's ED, flirting w/the white pony on and off at the end. I'm am not trying to get cute, or wise or be a smart ass, I just want to know if there's science behind how building up to Tren is any safer than using it earlier on. Thanks again for the informative post OP. Sorry for the thread- jack too.
Your body will definitely build a tolerance. I believe that the reason someone would say "use most other compounds before using tren" is to get a proper gauge. Because some do have nasty side effects from it. Some ppl can't handle it. So I would advice someone run a cycle with Nandrolone prior to tren. It's another powerful 19-nor and a good way to gauge your response to elevated prolactin. Equipoise , masteron, Primobolan all safer alternatives to tren with less harsh sides. So don't you think that someone should get a better understanding of their body and how it reacts to different things before they jump in on something that can really be a muthafucker to handle? It's a crap shoot. You don't know how you'll react until you try. But you can get a better idea and make a responsible, educated decision based on what you learn about other compounds first. Tren is king for some. It is a powerful androgen and needs to be respected. And In this community it will always be very well respected. Ppl who discourage the use of tren to the newb or novice are being responsible with the info they give. That's what we like to see around here. If someone wanted to use tren and their reason was for its hardening ability or cutting ability, why not encourage them to use mast, or primo, Boldenone, even orals like var or winny first? The same results can be achieved with less harsh compounds. The real key to this entire lifestyle is your diet. I could cut while using ANY COMPOUNDS! Bottom line!! I could run deca /test/ anadrol and shred up. The more important thing is diet!
Nate.... This is an excellent post. I felt like I was reading my own biography to an extent. You brother.... Are on point. +1
AnonThat's good shit bro. Funny how some of us jumped right in when we started by listening to the wrong advice. I can def relate brother. +1 from me
The results seem tempting from tren but there are plenty more option I still want to give a go first. Like primo, 1test, boldenone acetate and var. My way of thinking about tren is that I don't want to try something that is going to give me great fast gains because I don't want to want it in every cycle. If I use it then I would be more inclined to use it again, I mainly worry about the long term sides of it since there have never been studies on it. The body doesn't produce tren, it produces test, so with that logic test seem best for the long run, then other compounds to complement it.
Tren is the king of steroids IF you are ready for it, its the strongest shit available but also the most harsh when it comes to sides.
Never think about doing Tren if you are not an experienced user.
First you do a Test only cycle and see how your body react, then you throw in some kind of oral to go with you next Test cycle. This way you will know what caused you trouble if that should happen. Always build your way up or you could face alot of trouble.
Im agressive by nature but never had any issues with steroids, if anything they made me more calm, probably because I was always aware of what I was doing and what the gear did to me.
Tren makes me sweat like a horse and eat like one. I dont feel the need to sleep as much as normally and I wake up a few times every night to drink and change sheets.
Cardio is rather difficult because of short breath, but for me thats about it.
Research is the key word here guys, always know exactly what you are putting into your body. First time Tren users should start out with Tren A just in case you cant handle the sides. Tren Hex is my personal favorit, but takes much longer to clear the system.
I think it would be more beneficial to not sit and share war stories of beating up cops. If someone laid down the facts as to why trenbolone is differnt from other steroids I would be very interested, but I do get anxiety.....I already ordered it tho....I think I'm gunna try to have kodiak queen replace it with suttin else.....Idont like the bad anxiety which I'm sure ill suffer from. Thanks for the post bro. U may have saved me from a baaad experience.
tread-mNice post D, unfortunately some people have to have the big mistakes in their world to get it. Not alll though so posts like this help.
I've been growing well on basic small stacks. After my injury i though about the tren train but went back to small n simple. Recovering and growing well. Im glad you posted real world views. +1 .
Thanks fast I thought this would be good for all the guys we deal with every day wanting tren for first cycle to see what really could happen and with all the other guys in here sharing as well I think it might change the minds of some I hope