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20 yr old trying to bulk back to 190 lean muscle mass

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Hey

Just a reiteration: I'm 20 yr. old, 178lbs, 5'11"

I'm doing the clomid, prami, nolva things are going good on 3rd day but I feel good I got it started.

I was 190 on cycle and lost alot of mass I kept like 15 lbs.

I want to be at 190, you can get n understanding of my body type by my picture,

I want to gain muscle mass and cut up,

What would you recommend supplement, nutrition, workout wise for someone like me
Who wants to gain muscle bulk and mass without the use of aas.

Hurstoill's picture

Have you heard about HGH supplements? They are good for bodybuilding since it encourages the body to produce natural GH, thus promoting higher metabolism, increased muscle mass, and many other health benefits. You can refer to this article http://www.hgh-supplements.co/Articles/using-hgh-pills-for-bodybuilding.... Good luck!

Doss's picture

anything that stimulates natural production of a hormone is great for someone this young. the body is still not fully matured, whether people care to acknowledge this or not. so, the goal is to tap into that and optimize it, rather than shut it down prematurely and retard the processes.

natural supplements are okay IMO for this age group. straying outside of that for exogenous hormone supplementation is not okay.

mindfuless's picture

I would be interested in HGH for my case what would be the most productive way of issuing HGH. I have in the last two days completyl fixed my diet up and im in the gym going hard like when I was on cycle it just sucks to see myself shrink lol. Went from 185- 178 in matter of weeks. I would be interested in HGH and the dosing if its worth it.

Doss's picture

no brother... no synthetic hormones until you're older. same shit different toilet... what i was referring to here is the OTC supplements that raise natty levels of either test or gh. because of your age, no synthetic horomones and absolutely NO pro-hormones. ok?

mindfuless's picture

got it

finafan's picture

you act as if there is no down side to HGH.

Doss's picture

i think what he means is to stimulate the production of endogenous growth hormone, rather than supplement it. personally, i think this method is okay for this age group because it only improves the positive feedback loop.

mindfuless's picture

Great great and ill say it again great videos thanks fellas

Doss's picture

here you go, bro: (courtesy of finafan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_HUVZ2slFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmAFR7b70OE

watch this guys videos.

finafan's picture

you can down load on thepiratebay.org too.

finafan's picture

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Doss's picture

good looking out, bro

finafan's picture

Eat big Sleep good Drink water and Workout hard. Do not trust any ad you see that makes you bigger stronger faster. Only few things I would buy at the store ISOPURE(I like the flavorless and the vanilla) and a few vitamins. I would down load Milo Sarcev Secret Of the Pros video. I think he lays out a good workout and diet.There might be better out there but I have not found it. If I was you after you do this PCT I would get a blood test. Even though you can lift a house doesn't mean you need to. Avoid maxing out. Lift smart not heavy. If you could learn that as young as you are you might avoid injury.

Doss's picture

good advice

finafan's picture

have you watched the video?

Doss's picture

which one? the one of the 13 year old chick?

finafan's picture

just watched the 13 year old girl fuckign amazing. No "Milo Sarcev Secret Of the Pros"

Doss's picture

no i haven't seen it. let me check it out real quick

finafan's picture

lol I think its hours long.

Doss's picture

pt 1 is more than an hour. lol. i'm watching it now, but doubt i have to finish. got it bookmarked already. good stuff.

finafan's picture

need to know how to get the video free pm me and I will tell you.

mindfuless's picture

If you want to comment on my past cycle I have a post regarding that you can comment in. I am here to ask for advise not a reiteration of what I did wrong, I'm on a strict pct to fix my self up, I am now reaching out for advise in building bulk lean muscle mass and vascularity.

Thanks mindfuless
Meal plans? Etc dossier gave me a great advise on a post work out pre cardio shake. Props to dossier.

Doss's picture

i'll tell you here the same thing i told you in PM:

for now, i'd recommend focusing on getting your system back up to par, so that you can take advantage of your youth and make good gains in the gym. once that has happened, healthy eating and good nutritional timing is the key. here's something that you will benefit from:

http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/for...

mindfuless's picture

I'm going to start that shake up tomorrow, props dossier

Doss's picture

you've only got one body, brother. and you're still young. take advantage of that youth, rather than jeopardize your adulthood.

Trenabolic's picture

So you ran a cycle at the tender age of 20 :(

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finafan's picture

think doing a cycle at 20 is bad? Here is the cycle.
20 yr old Male 178 lbs 5'10'' Did a test and tren e cycle 3 mos ago and want to start on a regime maybe anavar

Trenabolic's picture

The rabbit hole gets even deeper FML.

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