What is best to recover from injuries?
I been dealing with this sharp pain in my left shoulder(right in the spot where you pin) for a bit over 6 months. Pain goes away and come back. Today doing shoulder i felt it again and man i couldn't do no more reps after that. I even tried to take a break from gym for 2 weeks and pain just keep coming back and is keeping me from working my shoulder or any other excercise that includes rotating my shoulders. I heard that TB500 helps wih healing, restore and development of tissue, i wanna heard any experienced users in this topic to give me some feedback or an alternative to avoid surgery, i dont think i need it since its not that bad. But is frustrating as hell as you know at the moment i got this big bag of ice lol. Please comment bros i need ur experience with this kind of injuries & what have you done to get rid of it?
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I'm dealing w bad shoulder pain in my left shoulder now also
I'm able to train shoulders w any weight w o pain ad even side lateral. Only thing that hurts if flat dumble presses if I try to go heavy or flat smith machine bench kills me w pain on side and rear delt. No clue how I aggravated it. I've done the ice daily and if I ice and take 2 days off it feels much better
Last night I trained bi and Tri. And today my shoulder is killing me.
I'm gonna give IGF-DES A try in the area twice a day and also see if my ortho will give me a cortison shot
Two yrs ago i had a smal small test in rest labrum and got a cortison shot. After that it never bothered me again. Also in the past have had cortison shots in my bicep tendon also and never had pain again ;)
Ill see if the Igf-des helps
bro often times its not your rotator or shoulder that is causing you pain.
if it is your rotator you should feel pain just by placing your hands above your head. any pull downs, rows, overhead movements will cause pain.
a common overlooked area which causes shoulder area pain is your PECS, yes your PECS, and where they tie into your anterior delts. i have on many occasions strained these muscles to the point where i thought my shoulder was going to tear off. benching, pullovers, pulldowns were impossible to do for literally 6 months. it wasnt until i had my hernia surgery and took a few weeks off completely that i was able to recover properly.
if you have anterior delt pain, rest assured its your pecs. regardless the only way to heal is to rest. i understand easier said then done, but its the only option.
Interesting. I've had a nagging shoulder injury in my left. I can move it around, up and down, over my head with no pain at all. It's only when I'm working out (push/pull doesn't matter). Funny thing is my left pec is slightly bigger and stronger than my right.
Something similar happen to me. My left injured shoulder is bigger than my right shoulder.
Look into Graston scrapping/ technique. Basically it cause a micro trauma to the injury site promoting blood flow and healing to the area. I have used it as part of a successful treatment plan on many of my own injuries and a ton of my patients injuries.
Ive read a lot of good studies on the benefits of IGF and GH for injury recoveries. these will speed up the recovery process but still need to take it easy and let time Active Release Therapy can do wonders for injuries. Most of the times, only a few sessions are needed. This is when the injury is fresh and acute. Afterwards, you should definatly do rotator cuff exercise on a regular basis. Like twice a week-2 sets per excercise and 20 reps each. The point is to strengthen the rotator muscles and getting blood into the area. The 2 most important ones to do is the one mentioned above, where the cable is exactly where your hands end up when your arm is 90 degrees against your side and you're pulling away from your body. The other very important one is where your arm is 90 degrees extended from your shoulder and you are lifting from shoulder level up towards the ceiling.
It's very important these excercise are done strict, no jerking or moving the body 2 compensate. Weight will be low in the beginning because these muscle are weak/injuried, but the poundages will go up as the rotator cuff gets stronger.
The best time to do these excercise is at the end of your chest workout and again after your shoulder workout. If you do them in the beginning of the workout, you are pre-exhausting the rotator cuff and actually making the situation worst. This is therapy and should be treated as such, not as a warm up. What you want to do when warming up is to warm up the whole shoulder area in general, not to isolate these 4 small rotator muscles. The warm ups can be light high rep bent laterals with a bent arm or face pulls with the rope on the cables.
WithdrawlI did a 5 week run of IGF-1 Lr3 at 50mcgs a day and it worked wonders in reducing pain in my tendons in both knees and my left shoulder. I feel great now. Not sure if it would help with what you're describing but I thought I'd throw it out there. I haven't used TB500 before but I'm hearing more and more about it. Maybe a combination of the two would do you some good.
I had a rotatary issues a while back from driving and turning the wheel in a tractor all day for 14hrs straight took about 1 yr to heal completely very sharp pains
Anondont let anyone tell you different than this.
buy a TENS unit and do 30 minutes twice per day to work the excitability of your muscles and aid in cell repair, use a heating pad on top.
Front load TB-500 for a month, 5mg twice per week, then continued weekly
Make sure inflammation is under control, in this order of severity: Cortisol shot, Prescription pills or Tumeric (natural)
stretch it daily and work it with small bands.
HGH: i would say this would play a major role, but much like any injury, it will take time to be effective - just as time itself is imperative to your recovery.
STOP LIFTING!! no matter what exercise you do unless its legs, (no squats) you're directly engaging your shoulder.
deca/NPP and everything mentioned below wont heal a thing, they'll just mask it and worsen the injury. (bad advice guys)
ice is the opposite of what you want, you want blood flowing to this problem area, not something to mask the pain. Simple body feedback loop. Heat it up.
therapists would actually promote restricted movement. go do military bench on a smith machine then do it with a free bar and see which one makes your arms shake and more unstable (just asking for something to pop and tear)
I normally don't chime in much, but you're a good dude in my book Rick - although I always enjoy reading the fabulous advice people give ;)
Wow muta this is a very detailed info right here(priceless IMO)
As much as i would hate to stop my progress seems like its the best option right now. Currently at my gym working out legs and some abs, i will definitelly trying this seems everyhing else doesnt give me much result as far the shoulder pain.
You never stop amazing me big brotha, always looking out for your people, you are the best Muta(a lil homo)
So I guess those rotator cuff exercises were ineffective.... you know that long head biceps tendon runs directly down the middle of the shoulder/arm.... I think I hit that once or twice pinning with a 1-1/2" pin and I can remember barely able to raise my arm.... upright rows were killin me. Dunno bro, I've been dealing with golfers elbow for a while now, seems when I cut sugar to reduce inflammation, that helps. Those protein bars and meal replacements are loaded with the sweet stuff. 2-3 Tbsp olive oil per day.... also been supplementing with bromelain @1200mgs per day and seems to be helping reduce inflammation. Get your gurl/wifey/yokedMF to massage the area every nite, pay up if you have too, may make a world a difference to get some fresh blood in n around the affected area........
GearofWarGood advice, T. I'm super keen on the massage when I'm all fucked up. Seems to work better than most anything else. Well, Anadrol seems to heal me fast too, lol.
What I usually do is put ICE and Therapy, and start working on legs. I had an injury in a Pec and felt very bad, but I decided to work more on Legs and Abs. It took me 3 weeks to recover, but made good gains on the lower body.
rhgh
hop onto some peptides. I had a few major injuries in the past and the peptides help the recovery process a ton.One incident I tore 4 musclke in my abdominal wall, I was suppose to be out 16 weeks, then do physcial thearpy for 8 weeks. I end up being out 6 weeks, and spent 3 weeks in physcial therapy....Tremendous recovery rate.
i personaly used ghrp 2 and cjc 1295...Another option is IGF-1 LR3 into the problem area