Shortness of breath, tightness in chest after tren cycle
Here's my deal. I finished my 4th cycle recently, my 3rd with tren. This one was tren, masteron and prop 100/100/50 eod. I wasn't very happy with the gear. I used the same blend with Kalpa 50/50/50 EOD over the summer with a much lower dose, and had much better results and fewer sides.
It's been 2 weeks since my last shot of tren. I'm at the tail end of a test ethanate shot of just 250mg I took February 28th to get me threw a ski trip.
I've basically felt like shit for a couple weeks, towards the end of the cycle. A lot going on, beyond the scope of this post. But here is what concerns me.
I've had major anxiety, shortness of breath, tightness in the chest, and heart palpitations. The shortness of breath is noticeable even when conversing.
Does tren cause long lasting side effects like this? I haven't had this problem before. I started to notice the shortness of breath when I flew out to rocky mountain ski resort 10 days ago. I've been staying on a mountain, and have thought perhaps its elevation related. I fly back tomorrow. Is this just anxiety/withdrawal? This all seems to have happened once I went from the aforementioned cycle to just test.
Should I see a doctor? well, scratch that. I'm giving up gear after this, and I plan to see a doctor soon regardless. But, I'd rather not mention gear so I use my insurance.
I've been taking 5htp and Kava to help with anxiety, and I feel like it does help.
Just got a bunch of crazy thoughts in my head. Hope some bros have some thoughts.
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See a doc just to be safe.
@eryximachus
Hi there
I've just seen this page and I have the same problem. 1 year ago I had trenbolone injection for 2 weeks only. immediately after that I felt the change in my breathing. I can't take a complete breath at all. I have seen 3 specialist and took all kind of asthma inhalers. I am not sure if this is going to be with me forever? had anyone experienced it before? please help me
This thread is two years old man, and the OP is banned.
Might help
http://www.rxmuscle.com/rx-chem/chemical-enhancement-articles/7142-tren-...
eryximachusYou're the winner I think Nitti.
All blood work came back normal. EKG normal. No enlarged heart. Echocardiogram and stress test were normal. The cardiologist told me I had the best performance on the stress test he's seen in years.
Fucking tren.
Despite the doctor's compliments, I'm still quitting black market gear for good!
eryximachusOh man, that's even more scary. This is why I'm quitting gear for good!
I'm going to be tested today for a pulmonary embolism I believe.
This guy (Basskiller) I've spoken to a few times about tren. He is probably the most informed individual I've ever come across in the underground on the topic.
http://www.basskilleronline.com/tren_cough.shtml
eryximachusThanks Nitti.
This sounds more like an explanation just for tren cough. I don't really get tren cough, and more importantly - it's been 16 days since my last tren injection.
I'm loathe to mention to the doc my drug usage, not that it sounds like anything could be diagnosed from his info.
Has anyone had shortness of breath after discontinuing tren use that ultimately ameliorated somehow over time? or heard of such a thing?
i made a post about 2 weeks back i think it was titled " Im a little scared' i ended up in the hospital and i believe it was from running high doses of tren.. I had major shortness of breath, my heart felt like it was beating too strong and i was having palpitations. they also said my hemaglobin levels were elevated like a person who lives in high altitude... i have since dropped the tren totally from my cycle and after about a week my heart started to feel normal again... so for me i am guesing i can only run tren for a short period of time, maybe 4-6 weeks before i start having these sides from it, i was runn 175 mg-200mg EOD of tren ace.
Get a blood test done and check your hematocrit and hemaglobin levels , the Tren made mine skyrocket which i believe was the cause of my heart issues
heres the link to my post
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/im-a-little-scared
eryximachusThanks bro. Red blood cell count was normal.
It's a mystery, but no doubt it's the tren. I now fully support the eroids official line that tren is best avoided.
I would go see a doctor ASAP this is my opinion. They will probably do a EKG and take x-rays of your chest. As stated below tren is a mofo. But to me it does just sound like anxiety. Another thing to think about besides the tren is there anything else stressful going on right now in your life that could be stressing you out and you just don't realize it. On a personal note I am 24 and just lost my dad he passed away about a month ago. And to be honest for someone my age I thought I was taken it really well under the circumstances. But for 3 weeks after he passed I was having tightness in my chest shortness of breath and numbness in my entire left arm so finally decided to go to the doctor after I wasn't getting any better. They ran all the tests everything came back fine and we started talking just about life and things going on in my life. I mentioned my dad just passing away and other things going on in my life. That's when he told me that just stress in life could cause this. Which honestly didn't realize stress could cause affects on the body as much as it did. But he prescribed me to some klonopins and can say they have helped a ton. All in all I say this to just try and get you to think about if there could be anything else in your life right now that could be causing anxiety. But wish you all the best brother
eryximachusThanks bro. I can accept that it's anxiety, but my life right now is actually quite awesome. All of this began on a 10-day ski vacation in a beautiful, peaceful location with some of my best friends. Stayed at a massive, beautiful 10-bedroom mansion my buddy's parents' own. On the mountain. Ski lift across the street. I start a great new job with a significantly higher salary and amazing benefits and more responsibility in just a few days. Next weekend, I'm going to Miami Beach with my 22-year old supermodel girlfriend for my 35th birthday. I say supermodel as she was signed for years at a top agency, been on the cover of multiple magazines, every top fashion brand ad campaign, including 3 years in the VS catalog and so on.
If there was ever a time to be anxious, this is not it. Most people would think I'm living the dream. Hell, I feel like I'm living the dream.
The anxiety I feel either 1) comes from thinking I'm going to die or 2) is physical in some way. Given the circumstances, I'm blaming the gear.
At this point, it's actually starting to seem damn hilarious.
Hang in there brother
Go see a doctor and get a check up and see what's up!
Check your heart and cardiovascular system as well as getting full blood work up
Stay strong in your mind is number one right now!
We are here for you dude!
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eryximachusSpending the day with a cardiologist tomorrow, so far ER cardio bloodwork came back normal. Will have to wait until I get home for a full physical of bloodwork.
Thank you though! You guys are great.
jj gunnerBrother tren is a mofo on cardio. Constrict's air ways. Albuterol always has helped me on and after cycle. I think you need labs ASAP, but I think It's anxiety . The shortness of breath, the heart skips are consistint with panic attacks. Try to breath deep and not think to hard into it till your see Dr are labs. I suffer panic attacks and it's just like that.
If you go to ER say chest hurts and your short of breath tell check and it will most likely be anxiety. You will get a shot.
Ok roughneck. The cycle you ran may have been good if it were your 7th. And you're more like 160lbs from your pics
eryximachusAll the cardiac related labs came back perfect. I would believe it was just a panic attack if it was just today.
But seriously, i was on top of a beautiful mountain staring down onto a distant lake - one of the most peaceful places I know. And I still felt like I couldn't breath. No reason to be anxious up there.
The shortness of breath was constant, for 10 days.
Of note: I made them give me ativan in the ER. It helped enormously. If there is an exogonous source of this axniety, say residual crap Chinese put into their gear to make bunk product feel like tren, this would explain a lot. Attacks are transient, this was nearly constant.
I'll say it with every post, these underground labs are just not worth the risk. we really haven't a clue what we're injecting into our bodies. I think most tren is fake, with subtances added to induce rage. And perhaps anxiety.
jj gunnerI love tren,but cardio ,insomnia ,and anxiety is part of it. I knew they would give you ativan. When my first one hit me I was driven home from work and it came like a heart attack. You might want to go to your Dr with ER paper and get xanax,are valium.just incase .
eryximachusLike I said in another post, it's been 2 weeks since I used tren. Never experienced anxiety on it after I stopped. I haven't read this anywhere. Is this normal? Does tren give anxiety that persists long after cycling has ceased?
jj gunnerYea ,you good bro. Be rational. They gave you anxiety med, it worked. That's what's wrong.yes it possible to suffer sides for weeks.
eryximachusOk, so I've read over all these symptoms for high red blood cell count, and I think it's definitely my problem.
I've got to get on a plan to fly to Seattle in 2 hours, and then from Seattle to New York.
Is this a medical emergency? Should I postpone my flight and head to an ER?
I have all the symptoms, weakness, fatigue, shortness of breath... I know flying increases the risk of blood clots. I can't be trapped out here though, I've got to get back. How big of a risk is this? Quick advice please!
I'm never doing gear again!
AnonNo you will be fine. You will just be anxious. High red blood count long term will lead to problems, not right away. Next time you cycle just know the compounds and all about them, tren isn't for beginners.
eryximachusWell, at the advice of an ER doc friend, I did go the ER. No high red blood count. All regular ER tests were normal, blood tests, EKG, and so on. I'm going to a cardiologist in the morning.
Could it be anxiety? Perhaps. I have been damn anxious about what chinese crap we inject into ourselves. Like I said elsewhere, I'm done with AAS. Maybe I'm just anxious that I've fucked my life up permanently.
I'll let you know how it goes with the cardiologist
Anonglad to hear man..Tren is either your best friend or worst enemy. I believe its all anxiety, if they had concern they would of kept you
eryximachusI'mt really perplexed though. I haven't used tren now in over 2 weeks. This was my highest dose ever at 100mg EOD, usually I used 50 or 75. Never had a problem like this, or close to it.
Are there people who have had residual, persistent anxiety for extended periods of time AFTER discontinuing tren?
AnonIf anti anxiety medications are helping I highly doubt that it is something physically wrong with your heart bud. If anti anxiety medications are helping, its mostly what I described below which is anxiety related sides.
eryximachusWell, they help. But it's still there. I don't know. Maybe it's all in my head.
Sounds a bit like high BP especially on pulmunal arteries... or angina pectoris...
Not normal at all
Give it some days, and go see a cardiologist to check up and prevent further damage
eryximachusThis is what I was thinking.
Going to a doc will definitely be my next step.
AnonIt's most likely your red blood cell count is to high or raised bp. Add hawthrone berry into your regimen and go donate some blood. Donating blood always helps with the rbc count and anxiety related symptoms your experienceing....tren is known to do that.
eryximachusCan you tell me more about this high red blood cell count?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-red-blood-cell-count/MY00111
eryximachusI liked your post before you edited it.
I've never donated blood. I made an appointment to do it tomorrow.
Anonkeep us informed how you feel after, the flying and elevation def effects rbc to.
eryximachusI was thinking about getting some melatonin and l-theanine at the drug store. Those seem to be the best blood pressure lowering drugs you can get OTC.
Glad to hear the elevation has exacerbated symptoms. I thought I was going crazy!
Will give everyone an update tomorrow afternoon.
Is there a noticeable change right away?
Anonyea you notice it pretty quickly. don't tell people taking your blood on aas though, they won't accept you.
eryximachusHa, definitely won't happen. thanks bro.
AnonI would be concerned. Does it feel like someone is sitting on your chest?
I hope its not a heart problem..
eryximachusI'm not sure I would describe it that way, but I'm definitely concerned.
My major concern is I have to fly from a remote rocky mountain state to NYC tomorrow. If I survive the flight, all will be well given the plethora of doctors there!