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timcinkc42 years old 237lbs done tons of test cycles with dbol &anadrol but this gona be a first for me running tren e 1cc (200mgs) & test e 1cc (250mgs) every Monday Thursday started cycle today so in the beginning phase of it prob wont feel it for 3 weeks have novalex for pct & also takein milk thistle should I tweak this cycle in any way really tryin to keep it simple
Add clomid into your pct...Nolva will block estro from binding to receptors but you need clomid to restart the testis. Also hcg and/or proviron is a good addition to a 19-nor cycle since it is a harder shutdown. I presume you have either caber or prami to run with this for prolactin control?
leonidas7Ok guys, I'm right around 19 weeks out so I need to get this shit in order:
Current BF 15% +/-, letting esters from a test deca blast clear at the moment. 5'10 240 lbs
This is what I PMed PapaSwole but he hasn't gotten a chance to respond- hopefully someone can chime in.
Test E- 16-4 -600mg/week
EQ (poor mans primo) 16-4 -600mg/week
Tren E/A mix- 12-1 300mg/week
Mast prop 6-1 & 300 mg/week
Test Prop weeks 4-1 300 mg/week
Clen if i need it.
Might try and up the tren dose later on
Anon6 ft 262lbs (currently 6 weeks into deca 500mg, test 750mg, Dbol 50mg first 5 weeks).
4 cycles including this one.
BF% is not accurate right now, due to water gain from Deca
Just want your guys idea on a fall mass cycle.
leonidas7Hey, here is a repost of my precontest cycle. any help from the big boys would help. Feel free to tweak and add a compound or 2 if nessisary.
STATS: 240 lbs, 12-15% BF, 5 full cycles under belt, starting with test and adding a few compounds in over time.
CYCLE: Starting 16 weeks out
16-8
Test E 500/week
EQ 600/week
8-1
Test P 300/week
EQ 600/week
Tren 300/week
Mast 300/week
Aromasin on hand
Caber on hand
As you see doses are nothing crazy, especialy because there won't be any GH in the cycle. I've got a pretty solid base and have never really required crazy amounts to hold onto what I have.
A few questions though:
Could/should the tren be started earlier, 12 weeks out perhaps? I've never run tren higher then 300 mg for 8 weeks, so I didn't put in anything I actually haven't experienced first hand.
Tren dose- If I can handle it, should I up it?
Low dose deca- I've heard some local guys do it to help out with dry joints during prep. Worth throwing in from 16-8 perhaps at around 250/week?
Goal is to come in as a heavy weight and do some damage at a national show.
Thanks
Not a fan of this show prep cycle brother not at all unfortunately :( what all you have on hand
leonidas7At the moment- a good amount of test, tren, deca, eq, and some masteron. Have clen as well. We're right at about the 20 week mark from when I intend to be ready- so there is time to throw in another order if it is absolutely nessisary.
What esters are your tren trst and mast brother??
leonidas7I've got test E, test P, Tren E, Tren A (majority of the tren is A), and mast P.
Thats about everything you need brother maybe some winny or var i kno how id set u up but we better let papaswole set u up hes way more knowledgable than me
leonidas7Advice about potential stims as well as adding an oral such as winny/var/halo would help on top of the other stuff as well
Not a fan of ur layout brother eq up until show is a bad idea ud wana drop the longs six weeks out and stick with test p mast p tren a and var or winny also maybe some clen bro if u care to hear my opinion id b glad to lay something out for u?? Id need cycle history also
leonidas7I don't usually retain much water on EQ, which was my rationale for carrying it through because of the vascularity/etc. However that still makes some sense- anyone elses experiences on this might help as well.
History is first cycle 500 test/12 weeks, second 500 test/500 EQ for 16 weeks, third 650 Test 300 Deca dbol kicker, 4th test@ 300 EQ 500 and Tren finish at 300 a week. All were between 12-16 weeks in length.
I'm currently finishing up my most recent blast of 750 Test and 400 Deca, kickstarted with 50 mg dbol the first 4 weeks. Sitting solid at 240, probably around 13% at max. Got veins and abs although I'm an ass man when it comes to fat.
bold ace or tren would be a better choice. klaydo68 is right shorts the last weeks to drop water.
ok so here it goes this is the cycle i have planned and would appriciate all constructive criticism and advice on what AI i should use on cycle as ive only used nova when needed......
first my stats....im 30y/o 6'2" 250lbs. bf%-not sure to guess maybe high teens....ive ran several cycles over the years but i have been out of the game for 2 years maybe a lil longer after breaking my back.....so this is my comeback or so i would like to think......and heres my plan
weeks 1-6: Test Prop. 100mg EOD, & NPP 100mg EOD
weeks 1-14: Sust. 250mg EOD. & EQ 250mg E3D
weeks 9-14: Tren Ace 100mg EOD, & Mast. Ace 100mg EOD
weeks 6-9: HCG- 5000IU Split M.W.F evenly over the four weeks(may need to tweek)
weeks 17&18: PCT- Clomid and Nova (was going to do my normal thing but advice on dosage wouldnt hurt)
weeks 19&20: PCT- Clomid and Nova (was going to do my normal thing but advice on dosage wouldnt hurt)
As ive yet to use Arimidex or Aromisan help is needed as to dosage,when, and for what weeks should be used. My other concern is when, what weeks, and dosage of caber. also. The only compound ive yet to use listed in this cycle is the tren ace and i was going to start slow and work up to what feels comfy. I have a lot of respect for tren and have done much research and im planing on popping my tren cherry this round so like i said your advice and criticism will be greatly appriciated......Thank ladies and gents.
Papa. i tryed emailing ya this but never heard back i think i got ur email twisted PM me wit again if u have a chance thanks brotha........
Personally id run enanthate as a stabilized long ester brother why use sus and prop imo id also rethink the tren if its been two yrs as far as a.i. goes id use aromasin 6.25 ed and adjust from there these r jus suggestions brother and im sure papa or some other veteran will b along to take a look this is jus my first glance bro ill take a better look later id also run hcg from week 9 until a week before pct
what do u think if i swap the tren out for winny? i havent read much on mast and winny being run together anyone with experiance wanna chime in? i figure the winny would harden me up..........
I personally prefer var winny hurts my joints
from my experiance between cyp enan. and sust. i feel ive always responded better to the sust. i dunno if its in my head but i have always felt bloated while running just long esters when it comes to test. like i said though it could all be in my head i was a real fatty during my jr high school to high school days until i started lifting. I gain weight real easy if i dont keep my diet in check i put on bad weight real quick. and yeah im on the fence with the tren ive ran many compounds and i feel it would be a great addition for a comback cycle. As far as an ai goes ive been getting 50 50 responses to arimidex and aromasin it seems as though the individual that uses which ever one swears by the one they use so im not sure. The HCG i was planning on running till almost the end of the cycle. After reviewing what i wrote i realize thats the way it should be done. So thank you for your response klay i really appriciate it.....anyone else?
where are my girrrrrl cycles?
Ok momma I got you :)))) I totally forgot we talked lol
I am virtually crying ....>.<
you remember the cycle you put together for me... since im not running growth yet do i need to up the test?
post it up brother i will fix it for ya!
Test E 250 1cc Weeks 1-8
1 Test 200mg 2cc Weeks 1-8
Test P 100 3cc eod Weeks 1-14
Winny Oral 50 mg daily weeks 12-16
Anavar Oral 100mg daily weeks 12-16
Tren Ace 100mg eod weeks 12-16
Mast P 100mg eod weeks 10-16
Clen 2on 1 off weeks 12-16
also whats your feeling on spot injecting tne?
Repost: What do you think??
Compete in Nov 2013. Age 39 Weight 215.00 Ht 5ft 9in. Looking to come in hard at 230 pounds. With almost a year away this seems possible. Just have to eat, train and rest. This is the cycle that I like to run.. Twenty Weeks
Testosterone Enanthate 1-20 750mg
Primobolan Enanthate 1-18 600-800mg (note) Running Mast in replacement of Primo
Trenbolone Enanthate 1-16 500mg
Anavar 8-20 80mg ED
HCG - Weeks 3-20 250iu 2x per week
Aromasin 12.5mg- Weeks 1-3 every 3 days
- Weeks 3-20 .25mg every other day. Higher if needed
Caber - Weeks 1-20 .25mg 2x per week
ALA - NAC - Fish Oils - Hawthorn Berry - Niacin - CoQ10
This was a cycle that Perses worked with me on with a couple of changes.
I have ran Tren now for 3 cycles Started with Tren a I like runing it better than E.
Let me know if there is something to add or change.
Thanks for your time
where do you get your caber from? every where i have looked it's outrageously priced.
For that amount of weight gain i would do the following.....
1-20 Test Ent 1000mg a week
1-20 Eq 800mg
1-4 Tren ace 300mg a week
1-16 Tren Ent 400mg a week
Primo would be a great choice brother for a hard lean gain to keep you lean for the comp prep!
Continue with the same HCG, caber and aromasn
Thanks Bro: I really like this cycle. I have run one close to it. I have everything on hand ready to start just have to pick up some Eq. I have ran Eq several times for around 16 weeks. Last run really could not tell anything from it. I was hoping for a better appetite. Some days it is hard to eat like you should..
Papa is there a reason you run the test higher than the tren? ive always heard it makes for worse sides
I've just started hearingthat recently and the guys that were pushing that method are now banned! I've ran TrenHex by itself, Tren E and A higher than test, and most recently TrenA, MastP, and TestP equal. Tren Hex by itself, sweat like a construction worker in July. Tren E and A higher, jealousy, but that's just me, all equal with that TMT was smooth, no sides to speak of except I broke out in definition and vascularity! LOL ;-P
hahaha only side effect is PEELED!!! but i do it for a different reason just like with fit^ i drop his test out the final week its for a show or to achieve a polished physique for a mag a show or comp!
The TrenA are you running that ed or eod?
Honestly brother as far as i have come ED is the only way now :/ for just about everycompound
Really! Long Esters ED? That would make my pinning schedule easier! Today's Tuesday pin everything, Wednesday everything, Thursday.....LOL ;-P
haha i know brother you will see when you prep for your show!
Sounds great Papa! The next EBC starts in 3 weeks. I'd like to use it to start a Clean bulk run in preparation for the show. I feel I need more size. Back and Bi's blew up tonight on that Back Split! Got my Karbolyn today Orange Shockwave, Yum! Receptor cleaning in progress. Loving the off season diet after that cutter.
Gonna need to get my gear together for clean Mass.
Test is always my base higest mg reson being that your born into this world with a testosterone as your (male)hormone our body does not make Trens decas etc. so i keep my homeostasis sane and still have my hair no acne and or harldy any sides except for blood pressure from time to time!
I see i enjoy running them equal but have never run the test higher cuz i want the tren to get to the receptors and do its thing..... But if papa sez its kewl im riding with him
Yeah we had a whole thread arguing about the fighting for receptor thing, at the end of the day i believe u make bigger gains with high test high tren but u will probably have more sides also, but sometimes u gotta sacrifice for success right..
Exactly bro i dont give a fuck bout sides i wana get the maximum benefit from the gear
Well if u do it let us know how it goes bro, last time i did high test with tren i was paranoid as fuck
Right now im at 700 mg tren 600 mg sust
How are the sides? If any..
None bro
We need to tweak that brother.....sustanon needs to start coming out and rely on the test prop ester now at 6 weeks out
Yea that was the plan bro today is 53 days out i could go ahead and start the prop if u think i should
yes sir need to start focusing on fine tuning posing routine and carbs with higher fiber geans and start going to white fish and egg whites!
So high fiber greens??? Like broccoli ?? And switch protein to tilapia chic egg whites and ground turkey(93/7)???? Ive cut out carbs after noon but before noon its oats sweet pots brown rice quinoa and multi grain bread is this ok??
Not if you want to win!!! pm me lets aquare this all up brother!