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Toremifene Citrate

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I've been reading up on this. Any thought replacing Toremifene Citrate with Colmid 120/90/60/30 ??

ymenic's picture

Check the piptide sources. It where i accidentally order it instead of nova lol

DBG's picture

yeah...I have seen it there. I look for pharma gear for pct though...although that can always be fake too!! LOL

Broctavius's picture

Normal PCT would be Nolva (40/40/20/20) and Clomid (100/100/50/50) combo. You would normally replace Nolva with Toremifene 90/60/60/30 (Avg of 60mg per week for 4 weeks) for heavy cycles, and 60/60/30/30 (Average of 45mg per day for the 4 weeks) for light cycles. Torem has advantages over Nolva allowing quicker testosterone recovery, but it was usually much harder to source than Nolva.

Clomid is a necessity for PCT unless you have a severe reaction to Clomid in which case a complex PCT involving Nolva or Torem along with HCG to allow proper recovery. But, without Clomid recovery is much harder.

Use a Torem (90/60/60/30 or 60/60/30/30) and Clomid (100/100/50/50) combo.

ymenic's picture

Thanks for the reply.

DBG's picture

I have heard that 120/90/60/30 is the way to go with tor...I am getting some eventually, and that's how I was gonna run it with the 'norm' clomid

Broctavius's picture

Yea that sounds good there is some dispute over the proper Torem dosage, but that dosage doesn't seem unreasonable so I think you'll be fine. If you do experience some side effects you can always back the dosage down.

DBG's picture

I "might" have some in about 5 months, lol. I am hoping so...got someone looking hard for me Smile

mikebuie's picture

i havent used it myself but have every intention of doing exactly that after my next cycle, and already know where to get it. i havent found it on any sources on eroids, but its out there at other places bro. i found what seems to be a legit ass source for it with many reviews from users on other forums raving bout the shit, pm me if you want the website

DBG's picture

FR sent...

...I might be interested, lol.

EDIT: Oh shit...we are friends, lol. My bad. Anyway...maybe a PM sent?

Broctavius's picture

I'm hoping the Torem I'm running is legit. If my balls come back in a week or 2 I'll know.

DBG's picture

Honestly, that is the whole point of using it...with the nolva/clomid..it CAN take maybe two weeks to get everything into full swing again, whereas with the tor citrate and clomid method, you can see/feel results from it in literally the first 3 days.

Ok, so this is all 'hearsay' science really...but that is way I got interested in it. Hey, ya know it there is more a chance to keep more of my hard-earned cycle gains, then I am all for it Smile

mikebuie's picture

hell yeah man, thats what caught ny interest in it to begin with too - the speed in which your boys come back, but also because im in pct right now and hated the way i felt from the nolva and read how torem doesnt have nearly as many sides and is actually far safer, not to mention far more effective. nolva is actually a known carcinogenic, only problem is that legit torem isnt as easy to find as nolva. either way, im not the type to wants to be told simply what to take and how much, i want to know WHY and HOW it works, the pros and cons. both clomid and nolva come at a price, the estro rebound being so common because SERMS are synthetic estrogen. i really wish there was another, just as effective way to restart our systems after cycling. i know for sure tho im far more comfortable running deca in my next cycle knowing i'll be post cycling with torem. our generation will be paving the way for future AAS users, and unfortunately the nature of the beast is that most of this shit is uncharted territory ya feel me? we're kinda like guinea pigs i guess you could say lol, at least the eroids version bcuz peeps on other forums have BEEN usin torem and spreadin the word, it just seems like its only now reached eroids

DBG's picture

I've been reading about torem for months now...and I have been asking 'places' if it could be ordered. I will pay the price...not a problem, nolva isn't that expensive, but I haven't got a quote yet on the torem..so I have no comparison to go from.

Guinea pigs...sure. PCT guineas!! But we aren't the guinea pigs of yore AAS use...such as heads like Vike and Goth are. That must have been some ballgame back in the day before the times of Internet and "oh shit, I have a problem...lemme' Google it!!!"