+ 6 Myostatin, Follistatin & HGH
Revised 11/28/12
Current Weight: 251lb Target weight 270+
AAS:
750mg Test Weekly
60 to 90mg Tren Oral Daily
200mg to 250mg of Anadrol Daily (Later on)
Clenbuterol + Caffein (alt. Bi weekly)
Ephedrine + Caffein (alt. Bi Weekly)
Peptides:
Folli 344 500mcg bi-weekly for 2 month total (1st)
Myostatin HMP 500mcg bi-weekly for 2 month total (2nd)
HGH daily immediately post workout EOD:
4iu monday 2iu tuesday 2iu friday 2iu sunday
Outside of AAS i also like to keep my body fed with the proper nutrition; macros & so forth come to mind but i also take a full course vitamin regiment, this helps insure my anabolic state as i do not depend on anabolics to soley do this.
Vitamin A Carotene Complex
Vitamin B Complex 100
Vitamin C (i take 5g preworkout and 5g post-workout overtime this reduced cortisol)
Vitamim D3 (Natures most powerful Prohormone)
Vitamin E Complex with TocoTrienoles (i definitley avoid Vitamin E Acetate)
Vitamin K Complex
Albion Chelate Mineral Complex (Grocery list of minerals including selenium)
Zinc & Copper
Magnesium & Potassium
Thyroid Support with Tyrosin & Iodine
Rosemary for liver health
i am a prominent drinker of tea so i like to protect my liver that route i use reishi liver guard along with green tea and blood detoxification teas
& Finally the unexcusable Creatine Monohydrate a must in any AAS bulking cycle in my opinion.
Check out my Cycle outline below:
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/test-follistatin-myostatin-hgh-cycle
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Can you give a example of your new diet if you don't mind
Been implementing a new diet regiment much higher in protein for the last 3 days muscles look much fuller/Round 3D-ish been getting compliments that now i look much bigger all of a sudden really comes to show that without proper nutrition all else is bs, i figured i needed to get things together within the same level since i want to compete in may but at this range i can easily grow a gut so i pulled out the trusty ab lounge for down time
I thought id share this bit of info as it might help some, i am a person with a very slow metabolism it is impossible for me to eat 8 times a day, when i get out of bed i have zero appetite, once i am done training i cannot look at food for about 1hr without gagging; i am fine with eating twice a day and i know this is wrong and although i have slow metabolism along with heavy storage of macros this alone is not enough to power and grow new muscle tissue so i got online in search of meal replacement shakes with not just standard protein but a good amount of nutritional calories to it this is what i came up with at a budget level.
1 Gallon of whole Milk:
Total Calories: 2400
Total Carbs: 192g
Total Protein: 128g
$23
Vitol Russian Bear: 1 complete serving (5 scoops) in a gallon of milk (makes 3 gallons)
Total Calories: 2600
Total Carbs: 391g
Total protein: 184g
$21
Walmart Brand Body Fortress Whey ISOLATE (not standard whey too cheap)
1 Complete serving(9 scoops) in a gallon of milk in accordance with division by 3
Total Calories in 9 scoops: 1170
Total Carbs in 9 Scoops: 9g
Total Protein in 9 scoops: 270g
Total Servings 16
Calories Per serving: 385.63 calories
Total Carbs per serving: 37 carbs
Total Protein per serving: 36.37 G of protein
(you can boost protein content by adding peanut butter or another 9 servings of isolate this will increase protein content to 53.15g of protein per serving but shake may get thick)
For about $45 you can make 48 servings or $1 per cup of protein loaded milk
I will use this to meal gap those moments i just cannot eat, since i have noticed i am not intaking 250g of protein daily which is barminimum for my goals.
If any of you guys are aware of a better solution please inform me thanks!
Today im making a switch from tren precursors over to anadrol my beginning dosage shall be @ 200mg in compliance with my weight, will be using CNS stims. Clenbuterol along with the anadrol to keep water retention down plus a bump in myostatin depletion (as noted with medical studies on mice), im gonna be giving caffein a break and either use Ephedrine or Adderall as a primal CNS kick, once i complete the Anadrol cycle ill switch back to Tren to solidify the gains made.
great to see you still at this cycle bro, love the way you give your feedback to the compounds, very thorough
of course bro no point in keeping this information, but i gotta say i know their are people out their that say this myo and folli is blown out of the water and in cases it is because people expect it to be this overnight amazing growth which isnt so, my way to describe it is going from natural to aas and from aas to these peptides; it allows the body to continue growing through the means of elmination of blockers that otherwise would still be present with AAS, this cycle i have seen consistent fiber growth with minimal fat, love this stuff
Todays Myostatin injection was an experience to say the least, i injected 500mcg into each glute (1mg) since i want better absorption into the blood and it seems i got what i wanted; i took the shot at 11am at about 1pm i started feeling a strong lethargic symptom and generlized illness almost felt like it radiated from my glutes, at around 1:30pm i started feeling very cold and strong shivers took over, keep in mind this myostatin has a histidine tag that mimics the effects of flu symptoms without actually heating up the body; its a side effect of metabolising the peptide due to incomplete synthesis to save money. For a few minutes i felt my stomach churn and a strong headache on both sides of the head this lasted about 20minutes tops, i took 2 bayer tylenol (1g) within the next 30 minutes the symptoms started to go away i had a thick coat on but slowly i started to feel my body heat temperature return as the symptoms went away total duration was about 2-3hrs at the moment i feel perfectly fine but with a a slight light headed feeling due to the headache. I generally did not feel this from myostatin when done in other muscle groups, from my educated guess i deduct that the body quickly absorbed myostatin through gluteal administration i was aware of this for AAS and wanted to implement with peptides of this nature to cause quicker overall growth and distribution.
do you check and see if you hit a vein??, i got those same symptoms in a glute shot when i looked afterwards i seen alot of blood and droplets on syringe, i know it went right into my blood stream!!, i felt my head flyin right away, then burning in my roof of my mouth?? totally freaked me out, just remember there are alot of veins runnin back there!!...but also very cool budget nutrition info..and you mentioned 'Albion', lol they are the best !! chelated mag. etc, you are doing your homework young one!!
Shoot bro im aware of veins in the glutes i do all my aas shots their, their have been times where i hit a nerve or scar tissue you can generally feel the pinching pain when i do i dont pass the epidermis since it generally means ive hit scar tissue or a nerve within the epidermis, their was one time where im sure i hit a blood vessle since upon pulling out their was a pressure like spray of blood out my glute, It is A lot more common to pass through a blood vessle than to administer right into one but their is always that chance, with this said i generally shoot into my lower outter extremeties of the glute since their are less blood vessles their or generally on the outter extremeties onlong its sides. As far as for myostatin/Folli or any peptide if it where to be directly injected into a blood vessle IV style it wouldnt be as damaging as androgens in suspended oil because these peptides are suspended in water so their will be very little clogging factor since this is the direct danger. Followed by manifestation of very fast metabolization like you side giving you all those secondary side effects, but i did not and do not injecto myo/folli with normal syringes i do so with insulin needles since its not suspended in oil i dont feel it necessary to go deep into muscle the insulin needle goes deep enough to penetrate the epidermis and enter the dermis into the muscle, lowering the risk of a pass through or even touching a major blood vessle since blood vessles in the glutes run deeper than on skin surface like other muscle groups, their was no blood droplets following the shots into each glute and i did not feel the symptoms right away do keep in mind that due to high level of blood flow through the glutes peptides and AAS for certain will metabolise and maintain a higher syrum level in the blood once uptaken by blood vessles as noted in many research papers.
Quick question, how do you know that the folli 344 and myostatin hmp are actually working since you are taking it along with hgh and aas
I know for sure how aas effects my body ive been on it long enough to tell the difference of the various androgens out their, with HGH i feel my body recovers very fast between workouts But HGH is one of those peptides that on its own will take months if not years to divide enough cells to produce a significant change in mass density; its one of those situations that you know is so because when you train to the point of almost maxing out yourself any stimuli administered will cause a sensible difference; What i have sensed is that Folli 344 causes dramatic growth within my perspective of gains on the injected sites then of course it goes systemic, its been hard though for me to pick apart the difference between myostatin & Folli both feel about the same potent ability for site enhancement; but like anything its not a magic drug/peptide all it does is remove one more barrier that holds back growth through hard work results quickly manifest.
at this point i have finished follistatin, today i begin Myostatin HMP i will update a new picture later on tonight gains ive made look very promising to say the least specially since ive kept lean throughout this bulk
The toxicity of adrol might b slightly overstated but the toxicity of oral tren is nothing to fuck with proceed with caution bump this statement i jus read your post in more detail where you explained the oral tren is c17 alkylated
im not on oral methyltrienolone im on a precursor compound that converts to trenbolone acetate after liver hydro; toxicity of this precursor is actually quite low id say within the same range as adrol
200-250 mg Adrol, trying to kill yourself mate?
You will feel like shit thats for sure and cramp up just walking to the toilet.
Unless you are a powerlifter or fronloading a long ester cycle then stay away from Adrol.
Advice from an ex powelifter way past his prime, dont know how old you are but this sounds like some of the young guys I know who regret not listening to us oldtimers. You only get one body so take good care of it and dont stress to reach a certain goal as you can keep growing even at 50+.
i dont pretend to know everything on 17aa androgens but anadrol is blown out of the water in respects to toxicity their is actually no standard measurement of what a high level of toxicity is; as for example measuring what low and high testosterone is; its all based in judgment to the knowledge of the perspective eye. With this being said anadrol, dbol etc do not hold a candle to legal and often abused prohormones that not just rise the level of bile in the liver but also super stress the kidneys causin a tightness feeling on the lower right abdomen which isnt generally experienced with true aas,to add on their are measure that can be taken when taking any sort of drug that can stress the organs to balance out the stress. I am young only 23 but i try to be in the "know" versus doing crazy cycles and leaving things to chance
I do agree that a lot of the prohormones on the market are more harmful than most AAS. When we talt oral AAS I have to say that Adrol is the most toxic product, powelifters love it for pre comp, but noone like the sides of it. How far are you into this cycle and are you running it at high doses now?
I know you are taking a lot of supplements and all and from your list I can tell you did your research. Im wondering what you are trying to achieve except reach a certain weight. I mean you are young and your natural test level should be high enough to make great gains. I did my first cycle around your age and looking back I wish I had waited at least 5-8 years. Sure if you are looking to go pro theres no point in holding back, if not you might wanna take it slow.
Not trying to be a jerk here, only handing out free advice. Hate to see people get hurt especially a young man in his prime as yourself.
Sorry if I missed it but what AI are you running?
you might be thinking that im running anadrol all cycle long but this isnt so ive been into the cycle about a month now i have yet to touch anadrol, in fact i never do more than 2-3 androgens at a time; generally i stay along the range of two. At the moment im doing 750mg of test weekly and 75mg of oral trenbolone precursor daily (this isnt a prohormone but rather a compound that converts to tren ace once hydrolyzed in the liver it is not a 17aa toxic compound) ill run anadrol after running tren Pre. for the time range of about a month as well, while i understand that i am young natural test only allows so much growth and i am pretty certain i have pushed myself to my genetic limits naturally and while i will admit that im a little to arrogant to wait for my body to develop in time as a response to natural testosterone i wished to further my physique faster; i do not do this by abusing the drug though but rather seeing a faster progression through the brutal workouts i put myself through that would otherwise hinder or actually be catabolic if i was in a natural anabolic environment, so i figured and came to the logic that to push my physical body to the next level id need the help of AAS. I am looking forward to compete starting late 2013 right now i am on my bulking phase focusing on bringing up lagging muscle groups in my point of view so i wanna take this passion of mine and see if i can make something out of it. with this said since i am a bodybuilder I do not use anadrol for strength gains i actually use it mid cycle to push my physical size to the next level since i believe i am constantly on verge with my bodys month to month, year to year growth limit. But i appreciate your advice and input i am very open minded to what people have to say. I have never ran an AI in my life to be honest with you; the times i have came off of a cycle i have retained a good amount of what i gained and through muscle memory once i come on cycle i regain my previous size in record time then some, i am also not sesitive to estrogen hormones attaching to the receptor sites around the chest areola i speculate this is genetics though so gynecomestia is not a problem.
After that explanation I think you are rather "safe", not that its safe to use AAS at all, but as with everything else its about not abusing.
Just saw your pictures, you got great genetics no doubt congrats!. Im sure you will be in the big boys category soon.
I know guys like you whos not prone to gyno, still I would stay on a light dose of Arimidex just to be safe and to get max benefit out of your test. Some of it will always convert, Im sure you know.
Good luck with your cycle and preparations, you are a gifted young man, take care and be safe!
BTW you have a trainer or a pro/ex pro to help you reach you goals?
maybe someone can help explain or maybe has experienced the same; upon waking up and getting ready for my daily routine i feel a bit nauseaus once i go train i feel great but when i get to legs i start feeling nauseaus again, now the odd thing is that when i do hgh it literally goes away in seconds, for example my stomach was feeling a bit unsettled not so long ago i just administered hgh and now i feel fine, has anyone experienced the same is this normal with hgh? i have already puked a few times doing legs but admin. hgh post workout clears the symptoms virtually instantly..
id like to also add that i had a nosebleed yesterday out of the blue while i am aware that it can be the seasonal change i am aware that acvr2b myostatin inhibitor causes random unkown nosebleeds, i have not heard of folli causing this but i have been dosing in the 500mcg which is essentially a heavy dose compared to collective trials done.
since i skipped hgh yesterday due to a very busy day ima do 2iu preworkout then the regular 4iu post workout of hgh; love the stuff
Reloaded folli did 500mcg 250mcg into each medial deltoid head stung like a biatch. I got word that I have a huge amount of work starting December 10th so ima update progress next week
i have contacted my folli supplier to see if they are able to attach a virus onto the peptide, i am curious if they have the capabilities; so their response should be interesting.
oh mAn that would be one HELL of a feat if u got your hands on some! I would definitely be following a log of that
starting to feel the tren precursor side effects; i am getting the classical side effects of hot flashes, got the fan in front of me now and feels like im sweating under my skin, i get soaked in sweat when i train, also i got the bad nose itch that some people get from tren ace, stuff is definitly legit precusor, training today was intense again i hit back and triceps the size and pump i am getting is unreal it feels like everyday i can hit the weights as if i havent lifted all week, but if someone can englighten me as to why i am getting cramps on my face muscles when i lift? around my cheek bone specifically; i am taking potasium and magnesium post workout but this is occuring in each workout.
Since you are fairly new to hgh, I would have to say that is what is causing the face cramps. It's a common experience for a while when starting out.
My friends i dunno what to say this is by far my best cycle one week and change' in and i feel i am going places that before seemed like a challange to me, the combination of folli, hgh, tren & test is truely a potent mix once i switch from tren to anadrol the gains should be just as prominent, the pumps are insane on a daily basis i feel refreshed and powerful every workout and feel unhindered or blocked from gains; i have dropped a bit of weight but i am getting bigger and fuller, my belly fat is dispersing i see abs coming in yet i have not trained abs truely interesting stuff i attribute this mostly to the folli this friday i shall be doing bilateral deltoids since my arms outsize them.
100% good to go gonna be a good week
WithdrawlGood to hear man. Glad you're feeling better.
This is my gameplan for the moment, im going to take a two day break and will resume training on tuesday; Today i did an hgh shot post workout and have been sleeping up till this point, later on tonight im gonna redo 750mg of test E. for next weeks onslaught, in my original layout i had follistatin 344 injection every week at 500mcg but this is now obviously too much and an overkill since im still seeing results; so im going to do it every other week meaning the next folli shot will be next friday. im going to begin creatine loading once again tomorrow as i feel much more mobile now. Regardless todays leg workout was low impacting but yet was extremely intense i can already start seeing a growth change and seperation in my quads ill see you guys next tuesday for the continuation of this forum, if anything prevelant happens i shall update accordingly.
Today i did some quads and hammies; all extension machine based and did some cardio on the elliptical,i did not use any orals androgens nor cns stimulants; i have avoided creatine since yesterday, i am trying to reduce inflammation overall to fascilitate repair; if i had a guess as to whats happening id say the fascia was superstretched beyond the point of just being sore, i have regained mobility but today my chest have been very tight limiting my arms range of motion; and when i sit in the car i can feel every muscle touching the back pads which is very uncomfortable, people are telling me i blew up in a week as if i got pumped up and never lost the pump.
Did you make that wheel workout today? We are cheering you on brother.
i was not able to lift today i really wanted to but my body said otherwise; all day today i was in extreme agony its a potent mix of muscle stiffness and soreness that i have never experienced before in my life; i have been in bed all day avoiding movement and taking antiinflammatory meds; i have barely eaten as im sure you guys have all experienced thatt loss desire of pretty much everything when your body is such in an aching state; anyways i just checked my weight im at 250lbs i have yet to eat dinner or pretty much anything for that matter; thats another 2lb gain over yesterdays 248lb this is my first time using either HGH & Follistatin 344 one or both of them is forcing my body to grow at an unatural rate the one shirt that my girl helped me put on was completely filled out something that i didnt expect to happen for the next few weeks, this stuff is insane my friends, i am using menthol patches but even so this is something im gona have to ride out.
WithdrawlDamn this is crazy. Been following your log since the beginning. Be careful bro and keep us updated.
thanks bro, yeah this stuff is outright crazy just weighed in at 251 lbs gonna hit the sheets now n see if atleast ill be good for a leg day tomorrow peace
Also i feel the tren precursor is starting to mess with my sleep, when i take the hgh post workout i get sleepy so i take advantage and nap but things have become a little complicated at night, i may have to incorporate gabapentin along with valium; i honestly which i had temazepam that would solve the issue
i feel i should report this tonight i have woken up at 3:30am from what was a weird half awake like dream never experienced this before; all my muscles have become immobile so to speak i cannot lock out my arm the tricep tugs forward my calves are on fire and my shoulders and chest feel like they are locked in together; all of a sudden i am experiencing the worst sore symptom i have ever felt in my life regardless i shall continue to train tomorrow i took anti inflamatories to combat this; people around me have been telling me im blowing up to fast i guess this is the payout of that stiff muscles plus extreme soreness is crazy i need a damn wheel chair lol. i checked my weight im at 248lbs a 3lb gain in less than 24hrs
on a side note now that i have removed caffein i feel more of a post workout appetite, and on an irrelevant note i bought all of the hostess twinkies, dingdongs, suzy q etc. theyre going out of business and im gonna cash in a couple years from now (; or eat em when im hungry haha
a sick back day today! just weighed in at 245lbs; ive been gaining 1lb a day now for 2 days now which i am extremely pleased with (this did not occur before with test E and oral cycle alone; but rather speratic and uncontrolled weight gains and drops), still have that overall body pump feeling, now gonna eat 2 baked potatos and some ribs and do my post workout regiment, then in an hour gonna stuff my face with turkey goodies!
That's one mean looking cycle bro!
Won't the clen and ephedrine make it more difficult to reach your goal with all the extra calories it'll burn off?
Ephedrine, Caffein, Clenbuterol are CNS Stimulants they work by stimulating B Receptors This actually stimulates cell proliferation and growth with the correct diet and AAS, i am also using Clenbuterol as a way to further reduce Myo levels as seen in mice... I have decided to stop Caffein along with Ephedrine or Clenbuterol because i have noticed it overstimulates me to the point where i cannot eat for quite a while post workout this is contradictive towards my goals and outweighing the positives for this CNS stimulant; so i dropped it from the Cycle, either doing Ephedrine or Clenbuterol in alternate fashion now.
because i am doing an early training day i am doing hgh pre workout since upon waking and several hours on HGH is virtually at its lowest levels
Happy Turkey Day! gonna do some morning training before gym closes
loving the log bro, keep updating!
i am feeling generalized soreness on the shoulder area and a less evident tightness on the tricep, i was able to hit biceps a bit today; my whole arm became pumped which is something i havent experienced before from a single isolation, hitting up the stairclimber my quads became hard as a rock afterwards hitting extensions; i always lol at those moments when you want to walk and the knees give out a bit haha.
tomorrow im tearing up back, Hamstrings and deadlifts
i am starting to changes in my physique my frame size seems to be at that point before where i was 268lbs; my conclusion is less fat and more mass; how this has come to be so fast i do not know currently weghing 244lbs and reaching my previous size very quickly i know this is muscle memory but i want to get their as fast as possible to take advantage of new fiber growth through the means of this current cycle.
current weight bumped to 244lbs, 1lb gained over yesterday, gonna do post workout feeding now, stiffness on the tricep has gown down considerably after stimulating blood flow through training
Following thanks for sharing brother
the stiffness is starting to subside, gonna hit all three deltoid heads today without overdoing it in isolation fashion only eliminating the need for the tricep, and legs