Full Clomid + Nolva dose at night?
Hi
I am 2 weeks into my first PCT (Standard PCT: Clomid 100mg ED , Nolva 20mg ED, Aromasin 6,5mg ED)
Doing 20mg Nolva, 50mg Clomid and 6.5 Aromasin before bed, and 50mg Clomid in the morning.
I am having a hard time with feeling extremely tired all the time - mostly at work the first 3-4 hrs the morning after taking the clomid (Once, I had to go home early because of this). However it seems to fade out during the day and have a lot more energy in the afternoon.
So my question is:
Is it OK to take the full daily dose pre-bed and hope for it to "fade out" in the morning or is it important to split the clomid dose?
Regards
Encore
EDIT:
Hmm - it seems that Clomid has a quite long half-life of 5-7 days so the Clomid dosage shouldn't be an issue - and is probably not the cause either??
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I've been having similar issues. Everything morning after my 50mg dose I crash for hours and then suddenly I'm fine. It's brutal at work. I only have a few more days till I drop from 100 mg to 50 so I will just tough it out but I thought about taking full 100mg at night.
In my experience - for well being issues I took full dose pre-bed and had no issues during the day after that at all.
@P +5 thanks
Thank you all for your wise input
I feel way more energetic than I have done the last week, so I Think I will half dose clomid post w.o and the rest (nolva, aromasin and the last half clomid) pre-bed in the future.
Thank god for Eroids and all the helpful people in here.
cdaddy7My PCT I use my doses at night....my reasoning is at night ur hormones are most active at night...any gyno flares I have encountered have been in the wee hrs of the morning between 2-5am....nipple stuck out and burning like a matchstick LOL....but that's me....and my body responds nicely to this regimen and it keeps things simple...my time and career doesn't always allow me the convenience of split doses...nor do I want to walk around with a bunch of pills in my pocket to explain if they fall out....I always keep the idea of "keep it simple"....now like my var where I know i got to split well I keep a tab in my secret pocket bc i can handle a one dose pill and It's easier to me.....I like P's layout just don't have the freedom....It's just another confirmation that we are all different and some works better for others than another's....as individuals we have to find our "sweet spot"
Hmm, I've always heard to dose clomid at night. I've been taking aromasin in the morning. Wonder if that's why I've been so tired....
Here's how i dose;
-Aromasin: In the Morning
-Clomid: Throughout the day
-Nolva: At Night
Why
Free testosterone is highest in the morning, when you wake up (hence why you get 'morning wood'), so to capitalise upon the daily peaks in your free testosterone I dose my aromasin in the morning. This will prevent any peaks in my estrogen throughout the day (since its half life is ~27 hours) and it will also further increase the amount of free testosterone in my system, since aromasin removes the binded testosterone from your sex hormone binging globulin (SHBG).
I dose my clomid throughout the day, because clomid is highly surpressive and it gets me emotional if i take a high dose all at once. Also i want to keep my blood levels as stable as possible to prevent any further sides.
My nolvadex dose is taken before i go to bed at night, since this is when estrogen is peaked in the human body. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, so while im sleeping, the estrogen is under control, which also aids my testosterone peaks the next morning.
This is my preferred way of dosing the aforementioned compounds; i too would like to hear any of your opinions/experiences
Anonwow very interesting... Iv been doing it backwards and never thought about it
cdaddy7Excellent layout brother...+1 from me
P thanks very much for this awesome response. Very informative. I'm going to run my PCT exactly like this. I would +1 you if I could.
Thanks for your input brother. +1 from me.
How do you split e.g a 100mg dose - 4 x 25? or smaller? (and do you feel it makes any noticable difference opposed to 1 or 2 bigger doses)
The clomid i use comes in 50mg tabs, so depending upon how i feel, i take 1x50mg tab mid-day and another about 3 hours before bed. However, this can change to 4x25mg (cut the 50mg tabs in half) and dosed evenly throughout the day. The reason why i spread my dose out is because clomid is a real bitch. It fucks with my emotions among many others and to limit that i need to reduce the dose, however i still need the full dose so i dose it evenly throughout the day.
I'd be interested in everyone's take on this.