2nd cyle, experience and even opinions wanted
so im in the midst of planning my 2nd cycle sometime late february of next year, and currently into my 1st cycle which consists of 6wks dbol at 35mgs a day (5mg every 3 hrs to maintain levels in blood), and 500mg test e split 2x a week. for my next cycle, im toying with the idea of running 600mg of sust and 300mg of deca weekly for 12 weeks, rather than test e and dbol with the deca. my thinking is i could do away with the dbol yet still get somewhat of a jump start with the sust. i love the pump and almost immediate results of dbol, but unfortunately $ IS an object. for my pct im planning the standard nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50 starting 2 weeks after last pin with forma-stanzol beginning last 4 weeks of cycle and into pct. the forma and especially timing of it is still an idea in progress you could say, so be easy on me ...
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1jakd_hipyRun a Test/500/12 week only with a mild oral like Tbol. It's a marathon not a sprint
X2 !!
Just run test 500mg for 14 weeks + oral of your choice.
kickers: Anadrol(50mg), dbol(20-50mg), tbol (50-80mg) first 4-5 weeks
or
finishers: tbol(50-80mg), var(60mg), winny(50mg) last 4-6 weeks
save deca for another cycle.
thanks for the input bro, you answered another question i had as far as winny at end of cycle so good lookin out. when you say test 500, you recommendin e or c. i hear its essentially the same exact chem makeup xcept e has a 2 or 3 day longer half-life. and ur sayng use a kicker OR a finisher? why not both? wouldnt the break inbetween be strght to detox the liver?
I said OR.
I'd say just go with 500mg testosterone enanthate per week for 14 weeks and do anavar 60mg per day weeks 10-15. Anavar has low side effects and is a nice lean mass builder gives you that beach body look.
if you cannot afford var then just go with the dbol/tbol kicker.
You do not need to use an oral. You could just use test by itself again.
1jakd_hipyDon't play with a DHT on your second cycle, progress slowly and 10 years from now you'll be happy you did. Take it from someone who did it wrong I know you want it now but the turtle wins this race
No. do not double dip the orals.
Nope. Sust alone can be a chore to a new user and dbol is best left out til cycle 4/5. If you're doing a spring cycle...what are your goals. The above IMO is going to be a rough ride.
i dont have a specific target weight i wanna get to or any particular desire to be shredded for the summer or anything, rather just want to bulk and put on muscle mass without a ridiculous amount of water weight. im perfectly fine with a good amount, and dont really have much of a choice when runnin gear such as that. much of this is all a controlled experiment you could say to see how my body responds to different compounds and what its capable of with help
also 500iu of hcg 2x weekly last 4 weeks of cycle and 1st week after cycle end. been researching a lot into timing of hcg (thruout cyle to keep hous awake, and blast phase at end to shock them back to life), but theres so many contradictory opinions and so called facts that its difficult to say whats most effective. im hoping i can get some much needed insight and preferably experience