+ 2 Wanted To Apologize for Immature Cycle Idea, Want Actual Help And Positive Input.
Dear All,
I wanted to firstly apologize for making a thread that consisted of a very immature cycle construction. I deserved all the bashing I got and I am honestly wanting to learn from my immature post and learn from all the best posters on this board. I have researched alot for several years and I didn't explain myself very clearly in my original cycle post. I respect the knowledge of everyone on this board. I wanted to ask several questions in this thread: is it ok to run an oral and injectable for first cycle (i've seen it done properly and I've seen it done improperly). Could an injection and a prohormone be used in conjuction properly? I ask this because I have a stash and I just don't want to waste them. I'm sure they could be used to some benefit and sides could be controlled. I know most cycles are maximum 12 weeks and most choose Test E due to amount of pinning and usually done Sunday / Thurs, or Monday / Friday. I assume most do it Sun / Thurs so one injection is on the weekend and one is during the week. My rotate sites and do quads / glutes. Alternating quads and or alternating quads. I know area should be sterlized and alcohol wiped prior to injection. Many people will warm up oil under warm running water, helps in ease of injection for first time users. Many first cycles are 500mg Test E which is a solid start and would equate to 250mg twice weekly. I would prefer to do test E due to the above facts and suggestions I've recieved before. I know PCT starts 2 to 3 weeks after last injection so the ester can clear. What if running an oral PH or AAS product, is the layover still 2-3 weeks I would assume so.
Cycle History - 19nor Tren, 8 weeks, gains = 34 lbs; 19nor tren and pheraplex, 6 week bridge, gains = 25 lbs.
History - Powerlifted, use tren for strength gains to be better. Did use at 150 pounds, used tren for lean gains, changed to bodybuilding and went to 185. Held 181 lbs for 5 months then came down with severe stomach flu for 2 weeks, went down to 160 lbs. Got back up to 180lbs, used tren and phera went to roughly 205's. Held consistent. Naturally got up to 210's (mispoke in my last thread, I actually typed 220's it was suppose to BE 210's). Held that for well over a year, got a bodybuidling coach and was set for a show in August of 2011. Was doing incline bb bench, went home and was playing with my rottweiler puppy and was messing around on the floor and jumped on quick while laying all my weight on my left shoulder. When I got up I dislocated my shoulder, popped it back in and went I did severly tore my posterior labrum. Had surgery July 6th, was able to lift legs but no squats 8 weeks later. Was actually hitting it hard by Feburary. Lost a bunch of weight, went 205 down to mid 160's. Had sever depression, now finally over one year removed from surgery I am low 190's. 188-191lbs daily. I ama 110% recovered and shoulder is better then it was before.
Cycle Sides - Used clomid, liver care and 6bromo in my second cycle for pct. Made a mistake and crushed estro while on a SERM and everntually got slight rebound gyno. To help combate this effect in the future I will use an AI during cycle and in PCT if needed and instructed to do so by posters here.
Cycle Idea:
-Prefer to have test and use of some PH that I currently have
-Prferred length would be 12 weeks
-Preferred Test Base would be TEST E
Please input if you see something that should be changed, thanks.
*Weeks 1-12: Muta Test E (either 250mg x 10ml or 500mgx x 10ml), injected twice weekly at 250mg to 300mg for each injection, total 500mg-600mg weekly
*Weeks 2-10: Tren-E Prohormone or / Max LMG (haven't ran LMG ever would need to research dosing (tren 90/90/90/90/120/120/150/150). Both of these can elicit prolactin sides
*Weeks 1-10/12: Cabergoline at.5mg twice weekly, 3 times weekly if needed
*Weeks 1-12: Aromasin / Exemestane, start at 6.25mg daily, up dose if needed
*Weeks 1-12: Cycle Assist, US Himayla Liver Care, Joint Support, Fish Oil, Celery Seed Extract, Mulit Vitamin, Garlic Bub, CLA, Digestive enzymes
*Weeks 14-19: Clomid (100/100/50/50/25), Nolva (40/40/20/20/10), Liv.52 DS (2/2/2/2/2), Test Force Two "in scoops daily" (4/2/2/2/2/), aromasin (how should I dose this to combat estro rebound after SERM usage), Cortisol blocker "reverese taper" (0/0/3/2/2/2/1).
How is the above constructed. I feel that my PCT is very solid, any suggestions to my PCT, does it look right? Is the actual AAS portion of my cycle good for a first run. About the pro-hormones, I had these on hand in case I couldnt use the gear and was unsure if I wanted to take the legal risk at first. Since I have these on hand I would prefer to use them the best I could and incoporate them in any way possible. I am fully capable of researching and gaining advice, I would like a positive direction input and support. I have full PCT and full prohomones and all supports on hand and ready to go. Only thing that is missing is injectable AAS source (Test e, etc) and injectable accessories such as: pins, alcohol wipes. I would really like some input and I will take everthing into consideration. I am a senior dietetic student at a major university so I know how nutrition plays a major role in gains. Also currently running a 5 day split workout (mon - quads / hips / abs; tues - chest / biceps / calfs; wed - off; thurs - lower back, hips, hamstrings, abs; friday - upper back, calfs, traps; saturday - shoulders, tricpes, abs).
Thanks for everything everyone.
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If your asking should you run your ai during pct? The answer is no. just run the standard clomid nolva pct.
Thank you for the response, I've seen it both ways, this is duly noted.
This is the same post as last one just twice as long. Steroids have been around since 1940's....so please research. Community...forums...cycles...First Cycle. Also, your resume above sounds like a self proclaimed med student that came on here just a few months ago running horrible cycle...advised to not run....got messed up....advised how to correct...argued more...got banned. If this is that guy, stop...research...learn.
Not the same guy, wanted advice. Everything ive seen is test e for 12 weeks. Usually solo at 500-600mg weekly. Injected twice weekly, use of full pct is good - which I have, full supports is beneficial - which I have. Would like something more then test e, but if that is the starting gold standard then I have no issues running just test e. hey atleast I have Everyhing on hand and I'm not the usualy guy without a pct.
Right now you don't need more than test e. its not how many compounds you put into your body. Your diet and exercise is going to give you your results. and just so you know I've done 12 cycles and my last cycle was test only. my winter cycle will also be test only. Don't think just cause its test only you can't get results. You make it or break it in the kitchen.
Thanks for the positive input and knowledge fully apperticate it man. Looks like test E is the way to go. Dose my pct look solid?
Pct is clomid. 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. If you go with test e its 15 days after last shot.