posted Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:42
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Thoughts on this cycle?
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Hello all, I am currently in the planning my first inject cycle.
Currently fairly straight forward.
Over all Goal: lean bulk
Stats: 6ft 210lbs 14% BF
1-4 Anadrol 50mg
1-6 Liv 52
1-12 Test E 250mg monday/thursday (500mg total)
15-18 Nolva 20/10/10
15-18 Clomid 100/100/50/50
On hand:
Exemestane
Letro
HCG
Comments/questions/concerns always welcome.
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Here is my modified cycle plan, after reading more posts on first cycles.
1-12 Test E 250mg Monday and Thursday (500mg weekly)
3-14 Arommasin 12.5mg daily
4-12 HCG 250iu monday and thursday
15-18 PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Debating a test prop kickstart but still looking into dosing on this. Would 50mg daily suffice or should I avoid the complications on a first cycle.
This is more like it
You mentioned you were patient so why not just go with the enth and take some time to try different site locations to gain some pinning experience
The only thing I would add would be to blast hcg 250x3 on wk 12
sadasn1962First thing should be done is blood work that way you know were you are at ,even before you start any cycle, as far as anadrol on your first cycle imho you are way ahead of your self, save the heavy orals for another time . just see how you respond to the test at such a young age you dont want to screw up your system and end up with problems with your liver or kidneys,but keep doing research and asking questions
would recommend test only but if you are going to use a kick and are looking to go lean then prop or tbol would be more in line with goals plus it will be difficult to gage your response to the test with the retention from the drol.
Run nolva 40/40/20/20
sorry took it too far saying all wrong. your clomid dosage is right. what you need is the clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20. you need this because nolva stimulates LH and FSH which will cause your nuts to start producing their own test and sperm again...LH helps with test production FSH starts sperm production. also the aromasin should be ran at 12.5 mg everyday starting in the 3rd week to help keep your estrogen in check
So basically remove the anadrol and increase nolva dosage and run a "relatively" low dose AI throughout after week 3. So basically running the AI as the test starts to kick in.
I am slightly confused on the requirement of nolva and clomid, for the simple fact that I am pretty positive that clomid stimulates LH and FSH, thus its therapeutic usage as a fertility drug.
From CDaddy on another post...dont know how better to put this hopefully i dont get introuble for copying and pasting.
"Just so know why Nolva/Clomid PCT: Clomid and Nolva actions Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue."
cdaddy7You got my permission TED always to use any of my posts or info bc It's for the community to learn and become more knowledgeable my man
haha ok was a little worried but had read it in a previous thread and could not have explained it better myself
And finally my class on endocrinology helps me. Thanks for that post.
Would this be better?
13-14 HCG 250 IUs twice weekly
15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20
i dont think 250iu 2x wk for 2 weeks is going to do a whole lot with you natty production. you probably wont need it either for this cycle. i have it on hand but dont think im going to use it...im 5 weeks in to my first cycle and i have a bit of shrinkage but the "shut down" doesnt seem that hard. but if you do decide to go for a blast i think 250iu eod for 2 weeks would be better to ramp up your endo production as that test e is tapering off into pct. nolva dosage is correct there
look through the forums there's a lot of good information on here
bro u need to do more research before u run this cycle, if u do this u can really fuck yourself up
Thus this cycle is for next year and it is currently october....
well thats good news
I fortunately was born with a decent amount of patience.
that's a quality not a lot of aas users have, including me lol
HA!!!...LOL, you can say that again. Got another one right here.
25yo
Explain to me how the pct is wrong if you wouldnt mind.
couple things wrong here man. first off how old are you. second test only first cycle and your pct is all wrong.