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Third Cycle

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Check profile for stats: currently on 2nd cycle. of.500mg test/500mg. Eq. This is a 16 week cycle. First cycle was 50manavar and 100mg test p ed. This cycle was. 8 weeks long with anavar run for 6 weeks. I started out at 100mg of test p eod but wasn't getting the results (maybe under. dosed. gear). Anyway, I am thinking 50mg t olb. for first 5 weeks , and 50mh anavar the last 5 weeks. I ll run 500mg of test and this will be a 16 week cycle.

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Now, what are some good size and strength for a third cycle? Tren/test? Or how about an 8 wk. bulk: 50mg dbol ed wks 1-4, 100mg test p ed, 100mg npp? I am just weighing the possibilities, so don't crack my balls too much.

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That doesn't sound bad, however, no pct here, it is straight to trt after cycle

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Running 2 orals in the same cycle IMO isn't good. It looks like you are looking for solid lean gains. here are a couple thoughts.
500mg/teste/ 1-16
50mg/tbol/ 1-6
50mg winstrol (injectable)/10-16
OR
600mg/teste 1-16
50mg/tbol/ 1-6
600mg/eq/ 1-14
OR
50mg/tbol/1-6
250mg/teste/1-16
600mg/primo/1-14
The last one would be my choice personally. But all three will help yield some quality gains.Also get some adex to combat any water retention.

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Is that a typo: 600mg primo and 250mg test? If I did that cycle, I would be breaking the one substance at a time rule.

logan's picture

This is third cycle, by this time it should be IMO 2 long term esters and maybe an oral. Test primo(which is the safest of all AAS) along with a tbol kicker is fine. Compared to what you are proposing I think this is safer. If you want leave out the tbol. Low test and primo yields great results.

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I thought the general rule is equal or more test than any other substance.

logan's picture

Not when it comes to primo, it is there for just keeping your boys happy. High test will diminish the true affects of primo.

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Thanks for that info, that is good to know. Now, what kind of gains is expected from that type of cycle?

logan's picture

Provided your bf% is low say 8% you get extremely developed. Shoulders rounded off, your back gets that nice V shape, chest becomes broader. All the things a bodybuilder is looking for. That is why it is called the "Rolls Royce"of steroids. The way I describe it best is you look like Michelangelo himself carved you out of stone. It is by far my favorite compound. Also looking at side effect charts for compounds it is the lowest. My summer cycle is always built around primo.

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Sounds perfect, now if only we could find a way to bring the price down.

logan's picture

It is expensive but well worth it. You could start at 400mg which is the lowers you should go for the first 6 weeks then bump it up to 600mg for the last 8. Still great results but doing it this way you could save a couple hundred. FR sent

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Iam willing to spend $1100 on a cycle but getting to 8% might be my biggest problem. Iam kind of comfortable where iam at now.

logan's picture

Primo works great at optimum bF 8% OR lower. IMO But can be ran up to max 12%bf and that is pushing it.This guy that is saying masteron is a choice is completely wrong. Masteron is a 100% cutting drug and your bf has definitely got to be at 8% or less. Send me stats and goals and I will talk to a couple buddies and come up with something that is right up your alley.

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Message sent.

logan's picture

Brother, masteron and primo are not even in the same ball park. You are talking Rolls Royce to a Ford.

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There's an idea. What does your bf % need to be to benefit from Mast?

Catalyst's picture

I like second and third cycles, but agree number three looks great as long as you can afford quality Primo.

Re comment about 5 on, 5 off for the orals, big NO. Heavy on the liver, dont even think about it.

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I figure 5 wks on, 5 wks off, 5 wks on for the orals would be okay, but maybe some others can chime in on the subject.
As of right now, iam looking at more lean gains but. who knows , when March/April gets here. I might change my mind.
I like those examples, thanks. I will take them into consideration. I've been using aromasin instead of adex.

logan's picture

Aromasin will do. Of course diet will ultimately decide lean gains but these 3 I feel are the way to go. Safe but effective.

logan's picture

Aromasin will do. Of course diet will ultimately decide lean gains but these 3 I feel are the way to go. Safe but effective.