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My cycle officially starts a week from today. Would it benefit me to test p this week or would it be a waste?

Ludwig's picture

Well...that was an entertaining read !!!

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Hardened-Johnson's picture

Ps, I can give two shits about my points....

fast48's picture

When your finished fingering the butt of every vet trying to help

Post stats n cycle

DBCCHEM's picture

I would also like to see a break down of diet and workout schedule

fast48's picture

Kinda hard now since the best person on here probably won't be back.

Hardened-Johnson's picture

i took your guys advice and went with the 500mg test and 500mg eq and i said thank you for the advice....i know, i can be hard headed but am not stupid.

logan's picture

Being stubborn as a mule is not the same as being dumb as a rock. At least you listen, many others don't. +1

fast48's picture

Not stupid at all. Human nature to want to squeeze in just that lil more. Doing 16 & 18?

Hardened-Johnson's picture

started today so, 16.

fast48's picture

Click on your name....click your forums. Thats a good test/eq run already thumbs up. Yes! Drop that dbol and kick start with prop 100mgs eod..

I recognized your name but can't figure why ya jyst didnt post that full test/eq cycle and simply ask about prop. We're not cops....we're here to help. So please repost that approved..okayd cycle.

Yes...500\500 or 500\600 works great with good diet...high protein

Hardened-Johnson's picture

I decided on 500mg test e and 500mg eq for 15 weeks. Thanks and sorry for the hardheadedness.

Hardened-Johnson's picture

Thanks for the advice and Fuck your point system....lol

DBCCHEM's picture

Tsk tsk

Hardened-Johnson's picture

Thanks for the advice and Fuck your point system....lol

fast48's picture

We're here to help anytime!

DBCCHEM's picture

This is my favorite kinda thread..... So you've decided to ask for advice and some big players are more than willing to help you so you can either accept what the have to say and take it as constructive or know it all and possibly hurt your self.... Now here's my questions for you when u say clean diet please break that down for us also what exactly is your goal for this cycle.... One more quick bit way too much oral drop them

Hardened-Johnson's picture

This is my second cycle and last cycle for 2012. It will consists of 500mg test e for weeks 1-6, then 750mg for the remaining cycle, which is 15 weeks long. EQ @ 500mg for weeks 1-14. Tbol 50 mg weeks 1-5. Anavar and or Winstrol thrown in there toward the end. My last cycle was 100mg test p ED and 50mg Anavar ED for, I want to say 12 weeks or maybe it was 10. I am 41 and did a couple cycles in my early thirties which consisted of Dbol, Sustanon and Deca. My bodyfat is at 11.5% and ny diet is clean. I've been training off and on my whole life. Also, I am on 100mg test c every week for try but I've been doing about 150+mg.

Hardened-Johnson's picture

Whoa fellow: where did I say I was taking an oral for 12 weeks?

logan's picture

Just above. Maybe you miss spoke but it reads like anavar for 12 maybe 10 weeks. Anywho still leave out the tbol/anavar/winny this round.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

ANAVAR ed for i want to say 12 but it may have been 10 ?????

logan's picture

WRONG,WRONG,WRONG! First NO oral should be taken for 12 weeks it WILL cause liver damage. Second for yout 2nd cycle keep your test at no more than 600mg more is not always better. Last the eq is fine but leave out the tbol and var/winny. Do you want to be on your death bed at 50 waiting for a liver transplant? I am glad you posted this before you started this cycle but you have the attention of 2 of the best members(tread&viking) so if you won't listen to me then listen to them.

Hardened-Johnson's picture

So, the couple cycles in my thirties don't count? If you guys are so concerned you should be reading the entire post.

ruski's picture

what are you doing here? one new compound at a time. one oral at a time. eq needs to be run for 15 weeks. so much wrong here. try this, test e 12 weeks. 500mg week split into 2. prop weeks 1-4 100mg eod or 50ed. end os story. nothing more. and go do some research.

ruski's picture

edit-16 weeks on the eq. and no need of raising test dose. also 750 to high for second cycle.

fast48's picture

Fully agree! Typical second cycle is First cycle with a lil prop. Folks grow great simply repeating first cycle 3-4 times.

Hardened-Johnson's picture

Haha. Are you serious?

fast48's picture

He's very serious. So am i. Why are you arguing with folks who 1-know more....and 2-have or have seen their friends screw up their health.

ruski's picture

very........

Hardened-Johnson's picture

Iam not gonna waste my energy arguing with you; instead, iam going to agree with you and tell you how right you are.

logan's picture

Why is it wasting energy when it comes to your well being. These members are not bashing you they are concerned for your well being. I have been around for 20 years in this game and I wish I had people like these guys when I started. We sometimes come off harsh but in the end WE ALL CARE. That is what separates eroids from all the other bullshit sights.

ruski's picture

lol. good luck in life.

ruski's picture

ABOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

logan's picture

Give tread your stats he obviously is willing to help. And my advice is to listen to him, it's freakin scary how much he knows.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

He has a hard ened johnson so at least we know he isnt running deca alone lol

Undertaker's picture

lol

logan's picture

What's the harm in just 250mg of deca a week with no test? Sound familiar?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lol ... like a haunting dream brother.

logan's picture

What a stubborn mother fr. he just wanted to hear the answer he wanted to hear.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

That seems to be happening alot lately bro... just hit you +3 on your top comment box! spot on advice Smile

logan's picture

Thanks brother, I don't want these guys making the same mistakes I made. After all that is what this great sight is really about. KNOWLEDGE.