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This section has been opened, we are going through membership requests now. there is 5 admins and it takes 3 yes's to get in.
a message from one of our admins
Attention Eroids members if you have requested membership for the advance cycle group we will need to see a few things to see if you are ready to be a member of this group
1. We need you to post your cycle experience
2. If possible we need you to post self pics. Now we know some of you cant but if you can it will be a great help to us to see if you should be here
3. Be more active in the forums so we can see what your knowledge on Compounds is
Thanks to every one that apply and good luck to all of you.
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im all for this. rather than keep sending pms to viking or bodybuilder and tread m we could have a whole section for reference where all the more advanced players could talk. ive been doin this for 10 years and while sometimes i still have questions about certain things i feel i cant take it to an open forum and talk about my 1gram a week tren ace cycle without having fear that a beginner would see my pics and think ok if i do a gram of tren a week i can look like that. so yes im all for this. i hope it works out.. as far as criteria i would think you would have to be an active member for some time and when somebody applies to enter this area then a mod or bfg would research there posts and comments and determine if they are in fact advanced or not.
TxBigBoyI like the active time criteria I think that would be a great start. And for those who haven't been here long or aren't very active and want to view the section they could apply. Maybe a generic steroid knowledge test with questions an advanced user would be able to answer.
i would think that would be one of the only ways to do it. obviously you would have to apply and if that person doesnt have enough time on the board then they just cant get in. thats why i say you have to be active here.. think about everybody you know ritenow, i pretty sure you would know by now whos advanced and who isnt.
You can't research posts or comments that don't exist, that's part of the issue. Not being able to speak your mind and talk about what's really going on at higher levels is the issue.
zewiYou make great points Juice--don't get me wrong. However, i think an advanced forum is a + but how to regulate it is a whole different animal.
However, as that is getting worked out. I'm lucky enough to know the people to go to for thous advanced talks. However, having a bigger audience, would be beneficial for not only myself but i'm sure everyone else in that next tier.
And like you said before.. AAS learning never stops..
Exactly why i said you have to be an active member.
TxBigBoyI think this is a great idea and would definitely spark my attention back to Eroids. Let's do it!
zewiThe Idea sounds great---However, how someone “gets voted in” I have no idea how that will work.
This is a hard subject, and it would be nice for me to post a cycle and get feedback from more than a few advanced user. I’m not going to say I know everything because I don’t. And every day I learn something different –from a new study or someone’s input that leads me down a different path—and how certain compounds could be a benefit if ran this way, because of how the body changes. How you can run 6 different compounds, and make a kick ass cycle. I can’t post that here. Nor would I ever, there are certain things that can’t be posted and I think that sucks—however, it is also a good thing.
How do you regulate it to just advanced users—so some noob doesn’t go out and kill himself.
However, I will say this It does sound like a great idea—But if you have been here long enough, you know who you can go to and bounce an advance cycle off—and get feedback from. But it would be cool to see all these advanced cycles just to see what you masterminds put together.
Just one question for all of those in favor of creating a closed forum: don't you ever use the Internet for research, even to research on steroids? Would you like to find that part of the Internet closed next time you try to access it and have to hear it's for your own good?
Bro nobody wants to exclude anyone else. It's just one of those things. You may very well be a responsible adult who's just interested in reading. There are a lot of guys who aren't. They want to look good in their new under armor shirt and will do anything to get big quick. It's a slippery slope
zewiI understand what your saying.. However, in all honesty--You will never see a vet post an advanced cycle---why because this can mean life and death if you don't no what the hell your doing.
I don't see the internet open to places i was able to access when i was in the military.. I don't see the internet open to things my wife gets to access being a nurse and to new studies and drugs.
Just saying--there are people out there that would think hell its posted by zewi,gs,cdaddy,viking,suzyb,juice,roid, thread,nitti--etc and this shit is good to go, and the guy dies.
The one thing i like about this community is its safety first, we don't ask for stats because we want to fuck with you---we don't post advanced cycles, because this is a place that people should be able to come and learn. However, there should be a place for advanced users to throw ideas off also--however, if that stays in a PM so be it.
cdaddy7Hell yes Z, I love the idea but i don't want some loose cannon or Noob getting jacked up by our posts....I cant live with that on my conscience and be comfortable or take the stance of well fuck it It's his choice bc that defeats our purple all together..I am a firm believer in the safe approach thats why i said below a regulation and privileged access must b considered for sure.... I want a place where we can go and get quality advanced vet input that is sound and trusted....if we just stayed in pms then we can't be effective in helping others in the forum for time consumption....but u have forum we can bounce backwards and forth to well thats a different story....in the end tho I just don't like the responsibility of know I gave a cycle to someone that got hurt by it bc they saw my tag on it...my conscience is too big on that bc i care about my brothers whether they are vets or novices....vets can pm vets to get advanced advice bc me and Z and GS do it all the time
I have been here close to a year now. I've seen all the hard work that goes into creating protocols for the newbies. This site has been a great teacher for a lot of people. It has also created a problem. There are a number of guys/gals here who are far more advanced than the average eroider. We have essentially been silenced. Forced to discuss our own ideas and cycle experience in the shadows of pm. While that's been fine to this point, it isn't exactly fair to us either. We do not want to ruin all te hard work of the vets here by posting things that are totally outside the box and having the new guys jump in and possible damage themselves. Those of us who want this have an understanding of our bodies ad how we respond to these compounds. We are already doing things our way. We just want to be able to share our ideas. It has been brought to the table that others may feel excluded. Well until they reach the status of experienced user, there isn't any Info beneficial to them that would be posted in such a section. They aren't missing anything is my point. I'm all in on this! I love eroids but it has evolved and we would like to evolve with it. Not be turned off and feeling silenced.
Just want to add one thing. Anyone who's been here a while knows that most new guys don't read right away. They jump right in and post without any research. When I joined up I proved my self and the group of guys who were patrolling the cycles section and giving advice stepped aside and let som others help out. And te cycle continues. Now there's a new group of guys doing a great Jon helping out with first second cycles. But honestly, I'm sick of the redundancy. I don't even come in this section often for that reason. It's the same song over and over. While necessary for newer guys to learn. It's boring for guys like me. Don't get me wrong, of course I help out when I can but most times it's like eehhh! I lost my luster for this. I don't want it to be that way when I log in. I enjoy discussing everything about this lifestyle but If I say "tren" it's like "Ooooooohh, you said tren". It's a definite turn off
I feel you. But this is going to turn into something we don't want here so let's back out. You know how I feel about it. I especially wouldn't take cycle advice from someone who had no pics posted or was on cycle 2 and giving out first cycle info. What the fuck do you have to offer except your experience on your first cycle, other than that it's information that's been passed down. Example of how second hand the Internet is. I have one picture, the absolute only picture I've seen that still exists of a particular insulin chart for Lilly. It exists only on my photobucket. I saw this picture posted on another forum, and was like 'HOLY SHIT' someone has that picture saved to because they love the knowledge and love insulin like I do. I went to quote it and it was my fucking picture from my personal photbucket copied into it lol. People claim things that have just been passed on. No ones a fucking genius. The further you get into steroid use you realize you're still fucking learning. Your body constantly adapts. What works for you for a while will stop working at some point and you have to change shit. End rant.
zewiAlways learning--that is a true statement right there.
I can't disagree but if you're experienced enough to know exactly what works for you and how you like to do things, you're just there to share your ideas. Everything would be outside the box so there would be plenty of disagreeing. Keep it real, if someone says something you disagree with what do you do? Are you going to try it anyway? No you're gonna chalk it up and say I disagree. The idea of it being vets sharing cycle ideas is whaa appealing. No fear of saying this or that. Just speak freely. There are holes in it but there are flaws in every idea right. I think it's worth a shot. I'm sick of the hush hush shit. And I know for a fact that whether they like you or not, when they hear some of your ideas they'll respect your opinion. You have a lot to offer but you have a gag order. We all do. It's time to evolve. As for the phoneys, they'll have to be weeded out somehow. I know some will slip through the cracks but what can you do until they're discovered? Are you against this?
You know my stance on this. You don't even have to ask if I'm against it. The only thing I know is that BFG always says this is not a BBing forum. Which is cool, fine. But over time you will get people who will advance, and then they are left to go... Idk, because as soon as trenbolone is added you have then reached either "bodybuilder" status or "this random ten cycle minimum (where that fucking number came from I have no idea)" status. If you know me and have known me for a while, you know my feelings about tren. You saw my post about how a high dose and bad life circumstance don't fucking go well together. 10 weeks of 700mg a week and the situation I was in with some of the things I was doing because I was strapped for cash made me do some things I'll never be proud of. But I will run it again. For shorter durations and more cautiously and have an outsider who knows me enough but doesn't know my fiancé and family tell me if I'm losing it. Of course I'd like to speak freely, I posted in the eroids evolving thread how I felt. I get attacked because I prefer nandrolone to eq. Oh well, we all have our staples and that's the way it is. But like I said, this ain't a bb forum, but where do you go when you have the experience?? I'm not gonna pm 5 or 10 different guys my cycle and get ideas thrown at me, honestly it's a hassle. At this point it's learn elsewhere and keep the knowledge to myself or someone who PMs me, or post freely and wait for the inevitable.
Hey brother, the point IS that this isn't a BB site and a closed forum ISN'T necessarily about g aday cycles and the best finisher. Its about the brothers who have earned their seat to get together with others who have earned (and no one can deny you are one of them) to get together to share freely away from the redundancy of the noobie and the cut and paste commandos. A place where respect has already been earned where trolls and flamers do not exist. A place where censorship for the greater good is no more. This place I speak of is EROIDIAN VALHALLA!
...and yes, it should be a place where ALL members aspire to go
You know that means a lot to me coming from you. And I do agree with what you said there.
Perfectly put!
tread-mI told you there was a Heaven!
I totally understand and again can't disagree. Not completely. Either way, no matter what they decide I'll still be hittin you up to talk about this or that! I'm curious about when nandrolone became a taboo as well. Isn't that the only 19 that's still user in medicine for humans? Anyway, I'll talk to your bitch ass later! ;-P
Yep even npp is no longer produced for human consumption. It was at one point though
Serious thought gone into this idea for the last few weeks from myself!... i think we could potentially be dealing with a"hot potato"here looking at some of the responses below.
IMO we have high karma members who know jack shit about real steroid use then on the other hand low karma people who dont get involved much on the forums that are very advanced and have been running fruitful cycles for years and years... determining who these people are is gonna be a nightmare i think.
Even some highly respected members only have a few cycles (2or3)under thier belts and being allowed to view much more advanced stuff and then taking the plunge into really heavy cycles "which they would"from hearing it from somebody they trust would be doing them an injustice in my honest opinion.
When we first started to discuss this project i was all for it! but after much thinking and soul searching i have totally changed my mind! as a MOD i will do anything eroids demands from me BUT i will not co-sign heavy potentially dangerous stacks to people i barely know,i hope this statement does not offend too many people but at the end of the day i must be true to myself.
This IS the point brother... WE know who's who. Those that have been around, know who they've been sharing info with. In MOD status MODs see the board in a wider scope than the avg member and know who is just running their mouths. I think the idea might be getting convoluted into a just a place to post competition like stacks. I may be wrong but I was under the impression we were looking at a place where those who have earned a place of maturity and respect for compounds and what we do here to come together to get and not get lost in the sea of (albeit necessary) redundancy...
You put that across very well brother and i must agree when the MODposition came available i jumped at it for just the reasons you mention... "i was becoming stale and bored in the noob first run scenario"... and again you reel me in regarding my deep bodybuilding roots i thank you for that because i am very competition orientated and forget sometimes that the biggest percentage of aas users on eroids are purely recreational... probably most of the stacks i would put forwards would be useless to the average user but it would be good to hear others opinions about such stacks... also i would find it interesting to find out what some of the avg users would consider "too much"... and yes you are correct again in the fact that being a MOD and scanning the reviews every hour we learn a hell of a lot more insight into which member is buying or using compound x y and z lol that has been an eye opener...another good point for debate or maybe even a post would be the question...who class,s themselves as ADVANCED!...interesting i would think.. also the word "VET" is thrown around... again not an age thing, i class juice 2 as a "vet" not due to his age but through his depth of knowledge and personal experience with probably every compound under the sun... when it gets into a real adv debate the shitheads would stand out like a nun in a brothel.
cdaddy7I been up most the night brainstorming it myself Viking, it's big and could b a "hot mess".......I admit It's easy to run with this idea bc me and Zewi throw cycles in pm that would blow ppls minds but we cant post those colossal cycles in open view, we have a hard enough time with the damn Tren issues...., but your right the selection process is what's gonna b the issue here bc i see high karma givin advice that makes me SMFH....but given at the same time that same horrible advice is given in pm too I promise u that...so we can't regulate that....now this doesn't mean i dont want it to happen, but just how it happens and works is the dilemma...maybe if BFG and Mods got together and voted on who based off time in the forums and knowledgeable input + karma....you Mods already know who knows there shit and who don't.....I say a voted invitation to a restricted forum that is only accessible by selection...let's say u invite someone in and bad advice is given enough that is obvious that he shouldn't b there then expulsion from that forum accessibility.....jus tryn to pitch some things.....now for the guys that are not selected that feel they should be allowed access, then they can contact/pm a mod and submit his requst and the mod can interview him through pm and decide if he should b given access....Hell GS9902 interrogated me on my knowledge before he ever encouraged me to come to these forums......Remember that G?......lol....thats my thoughts from insomnia brainstorming. LOL
Who will be overseeing the cycles forums when all the "VETS" are in the ADV lounge talking tren and drinking beers...this will be what BFG will need to know,we dont want a thousand noobs running around the place with pins hanging out thier ass,s screaming for mummy lmao!
cdaddy7Mayb consideration for another mod or two might not b such a bad idea either....mayb to b on post to assist with the load with noob forums....Idk...just pitching out options and possibilities....I enjoy workn with the Noob and i know who I can pm to get sound advanced .....I def don't want the new guys to suffer in our absence while we are at the knights templar table...LOL....those guys really need us vets.....that's where I stand.....I came here with the Passion to help others and persuade them not to make the same mistakes I did
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I think there should be more criteria than just karma (for the points that viking raised). I think karma, cycles, depth of information posted, experience should all be factors in chosing the right candidates
Agree. It's not really needed here. If you want advanced cycles you can do what I did and go elsewhere. And I don't share my cycles with people except my coach anymore because there's no point in throwing them here. Occasionally I'll post them on other boards, but even then I keep a lot to myself.
Why not share them here and freely? I'm really curious about how others are doing it. I'm not saying I'm ready for most of it: I know the level I'm at and I own it.
I'm just saying it hurts me to see you guys talking about how you can not talk about something ON THE INTERNET!!!
Dude I can't even say tren here, what do you think I'm gonna post my cycles and have these 2 cycle gurus come tell me what's wrong with them? I'm helping my friend with his cycle for nationals, maybe I'll post that after he gets his pro card. And then he wants me to design every cycle for him after that. And btw, we don't cycle we blast and cruise, to sit here and say I've ran so many pct in my life I'd be fucking lying to you. I did one time and it sucked ass. I do have enough knowledge about it though, and I do have the balls to say hey look bro, I don't really know that much about pct so let me refer you here. I also take insulin every day. I can't post that here because then everyone is going to think that insulin is the bomb shit when really I use it to help with some things and combat some other things. I also ran insulin on my first cycle. And I also sat on my computer for two years straight studying aas and insulin while training natural before I even thought about running a cycle of anything. My natty pics are pretty legit. Obviously gear changed things. Everything's more full now. But I'm digressing. What I'm saying is that my use/abuse probably isn't for public knowledge.
Now you say it, I've felt censured as well sometimes like when I was considering blast and cruise and stuff like that and I wish it wasn't that way because now all I do most of the time here is hold back and not ask as much and openly as I would like.
Still, bring even an additional layer of censure to the game is not something I agree with and I think we should be doing the opposite.
Feel you but it is what it is unless it changes. If it doesn't there's plenty of other forums in addition to here. I frequent many different ones.
It's a shame because I really like this place and this is were I learned. I keep reading comments about new users not reading, not researching... my first cycle was the one that was on a sticky and that was recommended for beginners. Whenever someone asks me and wants to get started with roids, I recommend them to do the same test-e only cycle. I really believe in this place and I can't stand to see it becoming a private and closed club but I guess I'm preaching in the dessert now.
Brother, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. The same way someone earns karma and works their way up through the eroids rankings by being a contributing member of the community s the same way to look at this. Entry would be earned. It's not going to change anything else on the board. There will still be cycle advice given just as its always been. The difference will be the advanced information sharing. But again , if people join up and share their knowledge and experience it will be fairly easy to tell who is parroting info and who is truly advanced. In other words you'd earn your way in. I don't think karma is a good way to tell who should get in or who won't. It should be about experience. I know there are guys who have high karma but aren't close to advanced. There are newbies who are far more advanced than most of us. So the application process is a good idea. Again it's not about excluding anyone. Just protecting the newbs
What I think about this: elitist, unnecessary, you're not protecting anyone and that is not the kind of Internet I want, which would be an open one where you're able to research into the information that you want or need freely.
That's how it was when I arrived in here and I'm immensely thankful for that to you guys -don't see why that should change now.
I like the idea I think level 3 access with a min of 1 year all ready being on eroids strick regulations would.make it easy for Mods to regulate.
tread-mSat's!
No I like this, have talked through email about it and I like your idea below and H's as well. Invite system sounds like a big part of it though for sure and that could come via vote based on request by the individual. Women invites would go something like this..."you're in." What?
Another option see if you can get BFG to set up a sub-domain for this purpose. Hell what do I know though, Im just one of the uneducated, inexperienced rookies here. In fact I probably shold not even be looking at this thread. lol
mighty mouse is pretty cool though I might say let you in just cuz of him ;-)
lol. It would be interesting to read but I really have no interest in getting that advanced. running 5+ compounds at a time, is not for me. Slin just way too dangerous to play with unless you are a pro and thats how you make a living.
who said we were running them all at the same time??
your right nobody said that in this post but I have seen some pretty heavy stuff on here. (The guy with the purse)
How will you chose the "few" ?
I also wanted to ask if there are any grrrls allowed?
You and Suzy are a must:-)
ah thats a MOD secret!