posted Sun, 09/02/2012 - 13:31
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+ 1 Cyp and var cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
im 27, 6'1, 215 pounds, lifting for 8 years seriously,approximately 12.5% BF looking to drop to 10% bf and gain a few pounds of lean mass.I used to be a lot leaner but my girl got prego and you would think i was the one having a baby the way i ate. Will be eating real clean and keeping a somewhat low calorie intake. I have a bunch of supporting supplements such as liv 52 and milk thistle cuz of the orals.
| Week | Testosterone Cyp | Anavar | Armidex | Liv 52/milk thistle/multi vitamin | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg | ed | ||||
| 2 | 400mg | ed | ||||
| 3 | 400mg | ed | ||||
| 4 | 400mg | .25mg eod | ed | |||
| 5 | 400mg | .25mg eod | ed | |||
| 6 | 400mg | .25mg eod | ed | |||
| 7 | 400mg | 60mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 8 | 400mg | 60mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 9 | 400mg | 60mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 10 | 400mg | 80mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 11 | 400mg | 80mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 12 | 400mg | 80mg | .25mg eod | ed | ||
| 13 | 80mg | .25mg eod | ed | |||
| 14 | 80mg | .25mg eod | ||||
| 15 | 40mg ed | 100mg ed | ||||
| 16 | 40mg ed | 100mg ed | ||||
| 17 | 20mg ed | 50mg ed | ||||
| 20mg ed | 50mg ed |
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Hi bro,
I'm glad you listened to us and +1 for your attitude. You wouldn't need adex until week 3 because cyp takes a some time to kick in - just wrote a post on this - http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/ester-value
Great attitude bro - grow well
P
cdaddy7Excellent job, P!! I watched you bring him thru!!!
AnonSorry i forgot to update that part of the log i will edit it now. i didn't start it till week 3 as you adviced. it was number 3 on your list of tips.I pretty much did everything you guys said. Really appreciate all your help P. Def needed to make some adjustments in this cycle and and i did. Thanks again P
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkNo problem bro.
My last concern is the dosage of your test, ideally it should be 500mg/wk, but if your growing off 400mg/wk then there's no reason to bump it up - record your stats, reps, diet etc. and adjust accordingly if needed
AnonI was considering bumping it up but im getting really good gains so far at 400. im leaning up and building lean muscle mass. Def noticeable. My diet is strict. im feeling amazing in the gym. I feel like i can lift forever and i barley even get sore the next day. Do you think i should bump it up?And at if so when. Im feeling really good and getting good results.
Keep it at 400mg/wk bro.
If your growing at 400mg that's great - you're spending less money on gear and getting the same results.
AnonKool will do
This looks good. Im going to be starting cup 500/wk and var first 2 weeks (mini kick start) then at the end like you, running for 15weeks. Might reduce to 12 not sure I have 30ml 250/ml
AnonYeah im loving it so far. The vets on here help me make a lot of adjustment to my cycle. I had it much shorter at first just 8 pins. they told me to up it to 12 pins cuz cyp takes so long to kick in. They also help me change my pct. i had both nolva nad clomid but i had the clomid dosed wrong. i really love this site. i have learned so much and i can do things properly and not worry about hurting my body or wasting money on bad products.
zewiYES MAKE IT 12 WEEKS. like everyone has said.
Anonkk will do thank you for all your help
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonBro you'll love test cyp I've ran it twice 250mg every 5 days listen to the advice below me. The only thing I wouldn't worry about is 400-500mg of test cyp per week 100mg isn't that big of deal especially if you are trying to cut that dose is fine but do extend it to 12 weeks and no need for Var on your first cycle or any oral really other than the adex and liver support. Remember that test cyp has an extra carbon atom attached to it so it's half life is 12 days as opposed to test e who's half life is 10. You may notice a little more water weight because of that but don't worry after ten weeks that will go away. Good luck bro and may the juice be with you!!....I know that sounds cheesy but I just watched Family Guy Star Wars on tv and I liked the ring to it!
Anonawesome i will extend it, thanks for all your feedback.HAHHAHAH may the juice be with you and i love family guy and the star wars parodies they did.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkWhat's your cycle history?
Theres a few changes i'd make immediately:
1) Make the test c cycle length 12 weeks (2 weeks longer)
2) Bring back the var, so you're not running var at any point alone
3) Start adex at week 3 (Since cyp is a long ester, it takes ~3-4 weeks for your body to adjust)
4) General rule for clomid dosage is 100/100/50/50
5) I'd change the cyp dosage to 500mg/wk
6) I'd only take the liver supplements when you take var
AnonThis is my first cycle BTW. I have done some prohormone cycles and stackes. M drol(superdrol clone) Hdrol Tren extreme
Ok, im glad you didn't post an oral only cycle and did your research. The best possible cycle at your stage is a test only cycle. Since this is your first cycle you need to see how your body reacts to one compound at a time
AnonJust a heads up i made changes to it, and i appreciate all the feed back. i really love this site and the people on it. truly grateful cuz they guys at my gym dont know jack and tell me stuff that is way off.
Anoni try and do as much research as possible, you can always learn something new.
Many juicers take liver supps all year ;) . Good work bro!
Anonbetter safe then sorry
cdaddy7+1 nice job again
Anoni am running the cyp for 12 weeks. im taking my last shot at 10 weeks.so i wont be running the var alone. I will make the adjustment on the clomid though.thank you for your feed back
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYes you cann run the var right up to pct since the test winds down during the 14days. But 12 Weeks at 500 gives better use/growth
AnonI might up it to 500. it seems like that is the sweet spot. i was going to run a anavar only cycle but from doing research its best to have test as a base
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Are you saying your last pin is week 10 and since its a long ester, it will work through week 12?
If so, I would suggest you scratch that!!!
Run the injects through 12 and start PCT 14 days later.
Anon?so you think i should take 12 shots making it a 14 week cycle?
Yes Sir.
AnonI made lots of adjustments to my cycle as you and other vets had advised. and i just wanted to say thankful and grateful for you guys and all the help
Anonthank you for your help. did exactly what you said too
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