posted Fri, 09/07/2012 - 12:27
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Hey so im almost at week 1 of my cycle, 6 days in. Im running 60mg var, 75mg test prop(eod), and 100ng mast prop(eod). I havnt felt shit yet, no strength increase, no pump difference, no vascularity difference, no agression. Starting tomorrow i will up dosages to 100mg var ed, 100mg test prop eod, and 150mg mast prop eod. When should i start to see results?keep in mind im cutting. Aswell when should i really feel it kickin in?
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Dont like this cycle at all and cant understand why you are doing a cutter on your second cycle?... i thought this game was about getting BIG first then bringing cutters into play when there is something thick and gnarly to cut back to... seems everybody wants to use fancy compounds before getting to grips with the basic muscle builders i.e TEST - DECA - EQ... maybe i am old fashioned but i do know how to get fucking BIG really fast and keep BF% in check during the ride.
What's next for his third? 1000mg of test with Tren and through winstrol tabs at 100mg/d for 12 weeks in. Another gentleman that hasn't done his homework.
BenchanitorAt 5"5 195lbs 14% bodyfat im not a twig...for my height my 17.8(no pump) arms look pretty big. Just sayin arm cuz its only thing i have measured dnt think ima arm hero and neglect other muscles.
@14% you should concentrate on leaning natty (i.e. diet and cardio)
...and as far as compounds go THEY are not the determining factors and Var is a waste of time and $$ @this point (@14%)
(IMO)Straight Test and dial in diet and training to suit your goals
OK so you still havnt answered why a cutter for cycle 2... your answer sounds to me like you want to get bigger!... also at 14% BF your mast and var is a waste here brother,you need to be nearer 10% to get the best results
Yeah thats it mate hey. KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method works well for me to. Piss off all the fancy shit. Straight Test with a Nandrolone is the base for every cycle. The only time to introduce Var, Drost and all that other gear is for Pre-comp. IMHO
BOOM!.. now we are talking brother,you know how to gain massive bulk very well..and by knowing this when it comes down to cutting pre/comp prep time as soon as the vascularity and striations show through you know you have done your job correctly... it is easier to carve a sculture from a log than a twig... that is the theory i have always worked by..and its never let me down yet bro.
Anonjust a little curious, won't the var shut down hpta and if so should not hcg be implemented????
dexitrimYou don't necessarily need to run HCG on such a short cycle.
I find it takes about 2 weeks to really start feeling the prop in full
probly should put up your stats before asking for advice
Benchanitor5"5 195 14% bodyfat
zewiAt that BF your wasting the mast. You don't need it.
age and cycle history to please
Benchanitor28, test e 600mg, and test e 600mg, dbol kickstart 40mg week 1-5.
ya i would listen to zewi bro and wait another week and everything should be kicking nice by then
Up your test dose to atleast 100mg/eod. It takes me over a week to fell prop kick in.
zewiUp your test p..
Test p takes 2-3 weeks to kick, you dont need to up your VAR.
1-8 Test p @ 150mg EOD
1-8 mast p @ 100mg EOD--------Mast p you need to have low BF% to see any results.
3-8 Var @ 50mg ED
Do you have an AI running?
BenchanitorNope however i have got my estro checked on 600mg test e before 10weeks in and it was fine. And thr mast will help with bloat.
tread-mWhat was the estro number?
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