posted Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:03
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What if you just stop juicing?
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Hey just a general question. What if once I am really happy with my self or if I just cant afford to continue buying. Will my body change in anyway. Training would remain the same.
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You get old and ache all the time and dont realize you are now half woman. So that being said buy stocks in manpons you will need them. I tried to stop so did my dad and a few friends, it truly sucks. You feel old and you ache alot. But hey dude if your OK doing so wait untill your test levels are dead and hit up the doc for TrT. It will be just enough to keep the vagina from growing between your legs..... I'm just giving you a little experience i recently had 6months after my cycle I was miserable. I am in the process to regain all my losses back i went from 225 lbs 6' benching 365 reps of 5 curling 225 blah blah blah to 165lbs and feel like a dainty woman. Its miserable, but hey you do whatever you want. Just dont say you weren't forewarned.
Don't you loose some gains after proper pct? I'm sure when ur body has to regulate back to your natural testosterone levels.. wouldn't this cause a dramatic loss of gains? I'm talking about if you just ran one cycle.. 8-12 weeks, and dont plan on running another one.. without a doubt you would loose most of your gains.. Is this correct..
Obviously, if you run alot of cycles, the more muscle you would keep from each cycle to the next.. Correct..
In conclusion, im trying to figure out how much gains are really kept for one 8-12 week cycle.. I would assume, that you would loose alot of your gains..
Inform me.
Anonthis is like suicide..... no man no... dont do it, its just not worth it
ofcourse it will change especially if you do not pct properly, unless you can by some chance maintain naturally high test levels which i doubt
bimmere92the way i see it, why would i stop using something that makes me feel great, look great, and gives me great results?
but to answer your question; yes of course your body will change. you wont look nearly as good unless you have sick genetics. we all know that guy who lives off pizza and hamburgers, and is still big and shredded without even trying.
tread-mWhy would you stop? Don't you watch the news brother, this shits killing people! Like one guy was juicing and got ran over by a car, another juicing and mauled by wolves, another shot in a hunting accident, another bled out after being hit by a car, one got his face eatin off, one was 97 yrs old but old age didn't get him it had to be the gear right, oh and another contracted malaria on a trip to africa, one was beaten to death at a yankee's game, another over dosed on ibuprofin but still you know it was the gear, one more had his arms ripped off in a freak tractor accident......don't you see, it was the gear! Just watch 60 minutes or 20/20 or any one of these very very smart news people its the gear brother! Hell I read an article that said Anna nicole smith died from hgh use, made no mention of the narcotics she was on and many drugs that together have deadly interactions...yeah, had to be the hgh though right? I thank God for people in the media everyday, proves to me how smart I am even if speaking relative to these people a fish is smart.
I know it's just like how guns miraculously float in mid air and shoot people with out a brain. That is some serious genetically enganeered shit brother. I swear every time someone talks about that soap opera some call news. I ask blatantly i hope you dont fucking believe that edited garbage. Then tell you want to hear real news tune into AM non us radio and then decifer what you hear. Buy a Ham radio and listen around the world. Alcohol, cigarettes, pollution, chemicals in our childrens and adults food medical malpractice thats overlooked, suicide from over debt and stress of just trying to live in this socialist controlled country. . What a joke profits being made upon our children's backs. It's a crying shame what the political system and media has done to this once free and all powerful country. We all call U.S.A
bimmere92lets not forget about the 16 year old baseball star who was injecting steroids into his veins! then he killed himself... it HAD to of been the juice. there is just no way somebody who commits suicide has underlying issues!
Anonfish are smart,,, 1064 karma cant be wrong
Trend's our resident therapist here on the site and often brings folks back down to reality when they veer off track a bit. He's got M-Jay thinking now.
AnonShort answer: On cycle you will ALWAYS look better and lift more. Gains you made on-cycle can be kept with proper diet + PCT. If you dont use a proper PCT you're gonna lose gains. If your diet sucks you're gonna lose gains. If you dont use proper PCT and fail to diet, you need to get out of the lifting game and go run some marathons with the cardio-kids.
PS: Nolva + Clomid is your friend. And ALWAYS have a full PCT on hand before your first pin.
If you just stop juicing that means more juice for us! Please stop juicing. You can take whatever supplement you can find and it will never compare to quality juice. Once you start you can't stop. They always come back for more. Juice is like crack!!!
Stop juicing?? Uhhhm, I don't follow... Once you've found Manna does one actually say, "No thanks, I'll pass?"
Unless you're abusing and/or having gear related health issues there are not many that "choose" to return to mere mortality... ON is ALWAYS better than OFF but I choose to use my OFF time to prepare for my next ON time : )
its like he just spoke a sacrilege lol
tread-mIts more than "like" my friend...Nectar of the Gods! Lol
and god made man in his image
tread-mI think your question is sort of missed here by the others but youvtell me. You are asking if you juice for however long it takes and obtain eventually the size you want and then quit juicing proper pct's the whole way etc will you keep your gains or general size. Well first of all your question not only missed the point of gaining it missed the point of keeping gains. Gains are made and "KEPT" in the kitchen period. If you figure that out you made it. Now will you keep the full on intense look , no. Will you stay as strong as if you cycle, no. Its always better with gear and thats the simple answer. I can't even tell you how many cycles I have done in my life but I can tell you after many many many its never as good off cycle as on and thats just the simple of it. You can gain to a certain place and if the new bigger you has a new bigger diet that is quality then you can stay bigger, just not gear good. I want to carry a cape because I can back it up not just because I look big enough to carry it! Lol don't ever bring up not using gear around me again do I make myself clear? Lol...hope it helped a little brother.
mattyjay25Lol wow, thanks for the perfect answer!
Did he mean mid-cycle or just in general? I thought he meant in general
mattyjay25yeah in general
AnonYou will always be bigger when using AAS compared to natural. PCT properly and you could keep a majority of your gains permanently.
AnonPosts like this should make other guys realize how important PCT is. At least after reading it that is what came to my mind. Honestly I have quit mid cycle more than once due to various reasons. As long as you have been keeping up the proper PCT protocols you shouldn't be in need of TRT. Being cheap or lazy on your PCT increases the likelyhood of needing to be a lifelong TRT guy. Something I'm sure the real TRT guys would tell you is not fun. Reaching your goals or some life changing reason for stopping mid cycle has happened to plenty of guys. Just hit up the proven PCT methods and you should be just fine.
I have to add that Diet and Training will be more important than ever at that point. Eating enough calories and Training is key to maintaining gains post cycle.