posted Sun, 06/03/2012 - 05:49
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high test/low tren or low test/high tren?
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I grew up with the statement "test is king",test should always be the base,and run test in higher dosages than other compounds added. I now hear more and more people starting to do these high tren/low test cycles. I am unsure of the benefits of this? I would like to hear opinions about this subject, thanks guys!
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test for weiner, tren for everything else
okay this makes since with two compounds.
what if you were doing npp,dbol,tren,test. what would the amount of test be needed?
Well the npp would generally require more test but running all those together might not be a good thing, npp and tren are both 19-nors which generally isn't recommended to run at the same time. That said its like running a higher amount of one and I've done it myself, I do notice a slight sickly feeling when on two 19-nors at the same time.
If I was going to cycle all that at the same time I'd split the cycle into dbol, npp, test and then switch to tren and test towards the end to lean up and drop the bloat from the dbol and npp.
As to quantity it would depend on previous cycles and stats, age etc. Higher amount of test to start, then drop it back on the tren somewhat.
tren works better if there is less estro in your system so when people use low test/high tren they have less test converting to estro but if you use high test/low tren and keep estro way down then you will get same effect but with less side of higher dose tren but added benefits of the higher test(obviously within reasonable doses according to your age cycle history etc)
e92lol test is not king, tren is. no fuck that, tren is nectar of the gods. i was doing 100mg ED tren ace and 75mg prop EOD.
smackDatAssits shoxing how much of a boner some people can be. Hmmm lets see., What are my goals? Bulk or cut. Now where did that little fairy fly off to?
shoxingbiceps17Awww still angry sweetheart?
shoxingbiceps17I have plenty of test on hand and an AI. The reason I say 250mg test is to run a standard TRT dose to keep body functioning normally and then let the tren do the rest of the work, but I have more test on hand to increase if needed. Thanks bro for your input
First I have to qualify this post by saying I have never used tren. However in doing my research it seems tren has 5x the affinity for the hormone receptors compared to test. In thinking that would it not be a more effective compound to use in that raito? So perhaps a 500 tren / 100 test / week would be an effective dose? Again I have not used tren just that is what I am finding from my research.
shoxingbiceps17Could you help me find a nice tren/test ratio? I wanna use 500mg/wk of tren...how much test should I use?
shoxingbiceps17Ok, after 3-4hrs of more research looks like I am going to go with the low test/high tren cycle. Now my question to you guys is, what is the best test/tren ratio to use? I wanna stay at 500mg/wk tren (that'll be the most i've ever done, and skeptical about doing more on this cycle), so should i use around 250mg/wk test?
juiceinatorTo me tren>test. Right now I'm running it at 70mg eod prop and 700mg wk tren. Much better gains than when I ran test higher than tren.
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shoxingbiceps17Also, will the gains differ? If so, please explain.
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there are several compounds that can be ran higher then test, tren is one of them. Test amplifies tren sides, and they compete for the same receptors.
What are your stats?
shoxingbiceps176th cycle
210
6'0"
10%
So you recommend higher tren?