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painful knuckles and lower back!

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I had 3cc left of some deca, i had left over from last cycle. About 4weeks ago i pinned it in my glute 2 weeks later my knuckles hurt and stiff upon awaking and for a couple of hours after. My lower back has began to hurt as well. I haven't started any lifting yet and have been pretty easy on myself. This whole knuckles and back issue is driving me nuts. None of these problems existed befor my deca injections. Does any body know whats going on or if they have had this happen before? By the end of the day say 8pm or so its not so bad. I have never had this problem before.

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right on! good to hear that the doc came through.

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I know right! The prednisone is working like a charm. But I wonder what the prednisone will do to my cycle. Because it is a steroid as well.

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Im healed. The doc prescribed prednisone, she said i was having a arthritic flair up. Due to all my injuries and stress my chemical imbalance caused a flair. Prednisone 20mg ed x6 days. I took my first dose last night and this morning OMG the fucking pain is subsiding down TO at least 50%.

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What are you trying ro sell here? I was asking about info on a particular problem I need to address, which has been looked into. So why are you trying to sell whatever it is on my pain. Maybe you can better explain what it is you are saying?
Thank you

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I didn't think these guy's were possible in here! Weird ass shit< its like their saying hello I am watching you %{ shit kinda freaks me out!

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Ok people! I finally had it i couldn't take the pain anymore. So I tied up a good ole noose strung it over rhe highest beem i could find i pulled the loope over my head tightened the knot and just before jumping!
I just remembered there's drugs for this shit and my goddam insurance should be paying for this. So fuck it I am going to my beautiful doc and get me some free drugs. Well she is always so awsome and she loves me to death because i am her moset unique patient her office has ever treated nor encountered. So when ever i call to be seen i am seen that day. She loves my stories and loves my devotion to life and self help. She told me today if she didn't know me she would think I was some fucked up tweaker off the streets because of my anxiaty disorder and my stories sound so made up but there not so she treats me very well and respects me alot.
So anyways i tell her what the hell is going on with my back and my knuckles and right off the bat she says I am having a arthritic flair up from all my injuries stress and my ability to finally get up and move around. Has caused by immune system to trigger a arthritic flair and it can happen in just about any one or all joints and cause the exact pain I am describing. So she has me on Prednisone 20mg a day fod the next 6 days and if symptoms subside but not gone do another 20mg a day for 6 more daysso far the first 20mg pill I took 5pm has already started to help out. Now I hope this is the problem because it makes perfect sense to me.

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had a good light work out today alot of cardio reps. I think Im sticking to the machines until my strength is back.

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Ok so it seems like pinning in my Bicept helps with knuckles lower back im assuming it to be bloat i feel pretty bloated

Freeze's picture

whats your water intake like bro? Go heavy on the water, it will help your retention and just make you feel a ton better. Dude, I feel for ya, just hang in there. Def sounds like some major nerve issues going on with the swelling and the instant fatigue. Have you tried a deep tissue massage? Those help big time if you can get the right person that can work those pressure points.

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Exactly! the deep tissue massage has always been key. I just have to find the person my last therapist is to far away. I drink like a horse dude gallons maybe to much.

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Hey Jester, spinal surgery is pretty serious, hope your doing better. It sounds like you might have some nerve issues with the lower back and painful knuckles. Do your hands go to sleep? I would go get it checked out for sure. The fatigue can be brought on by pain. If your in pain your not sleeping well and will be fatigued.

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Yea bro i hands are always falling asleep. Lower back i think is coming from water retention if i take fat crap it seems to help sometimes. But the knuckles holy crap! Yea i had some nerve damage due to a herniated disc pressing on spinal cord in the c6-c5 vertebrae. Look at my pic you can see what the docs did to repair, and the doc put the wrong part in?? Lawsuit on the way! Every time I go to the f-ing docs its the same ole song and dance take these pills and get fat sitting around lethargicly. I am needing to get back in shape for work. I definitely feel a huge difference in my work out now my muscles are still strong but when i was benching 145lbs at reps dude i just gave out, it wasn't muscle fatigue it was weird like a short circuit or something. In my shoulder. I am going to overcome this but I think i need to start off a lot easier on myself. This really sucks bro. Im wondering if there is a build up of fluids in my knuckles they dont pop like before and they feel puffy. Its a total mystery dude.

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So today i did some upper cardio speed bag bungee ball punching bag 30 min felt good,then row machine 15 min bike 15 min. Hands were feeling good knuckles a little stiff then loosened up after the big bag. Rowing was a little sore on the lower back jumped on the bike and felt better. When i hit the weights i started light as i moved up in weight i felt fatigued and my shoulders could'nt follow through my last rep and it was light 145lb light freaked me out i didnt have a spotter. At this point i decided i need to back off the free weights and go to the elliptic machines. Things started to feel better but still fatigued, as i was working on my abs and my back there was pain doing both in my lower back. I finished a good first work out since my surgery. I sat in the steam room for awhile and that seemed to help alot. Now I am chillin and my lower back hurts upon standing and my knuckles are a little sore. This is the beginning of my PT and strength gaining after cervical spine surgery. I pinned 1cc test p. 1cc test e and 1cc npp oh and hcg 250iu 2hrs before hitting the gym. Why the hell did i fatigue? I started test p and e and npp Tuesday i should have been feeling a little more pump by now. IDK im going to keep you guys informed any ideas would help.

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I am in the gym now and no pain??? Sarge i am using the spa tonight and see if that helps.

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Hey bro! Had enough I seen my doc yesterday and she said I had a "arthritic flair up" with all my injuries and stress my body caused a chemical imbalance and caused the flair up. These flair ups can happen in one joint or all joints. So she put me on Prednisone 20mg ed for 6 days. I started last night and this morning i am already feeling 50% better. I am so happy Smile

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For sure!

fast48's picture

Gout causes crystals to form in joints but that' feet and ankles. Might have dotor run blood work to see if it's just arthritis or different issue.

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It doesn't sound like deca related imo. Pinning once like that won't do much from what I understand

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This is what happened; i stopped cycle early due to surgery in beginning of nov. I am now back to cycle and PT i pinned the remaining deca i had left and waiting for order of new gear 2 weaks later im hurting in those places. Is it possible my deca crystallized in these joints?

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38 end of month. It was just out of nowhere and 2 weeks after pinning the last of my deca. This hasn't happened before. I can throw on the gloves and cardio bag an hour walk around without hurting i haven't been lifting hard at all just mor like cardio lifting. I wake up in the morn and my knuckles are hurting and swollen feeling, lower back hurts upon standing. I have never felt this before. My dad said the same thing you are. But why so sudden? Could it have been my deca was old or something? I am puzzled.

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And yes i have ran a few cycles in the last couple of years.