posted Sun, 05/20/2012 - 14:06
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Hello. Today is my last day of pct. I've read time on equals time off. How many people actually follow this rule? Would a month off after pct a sufficient amount of time? Thank you for any input.
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MystiifordreamEach body are different but take a time off is important for me, i take the same time of my cycle to recover. After I check results of blood test for know if I can restart
Aurel7659There is no rule of time ON and OFF. Do your bloodwork and consult your doc. If everything is ok then you can go back on cycle
No off time. You always on and then cruise. But never pct. And the 12 weeks cycle is short.
I wanted to Bump this ancient thread. Mostly as reminder to myself and others to take those breaks, let your body normalize a bit. Get labs, see how the body is doing before jumping into a new cycle.
When cycling, I have always used, TIME ON + PCT = TIME OFF. It may be anecdotal, but this particular guideline has served me pretty well getting my blood fairly normal, as opposed, and more so, to the days when I was blasting and cruising. Which I can tell you wrecked my body. saw this thread and wanted to put in my two CCs
AnonThank you so much Guys!!! i appreciate all the info. im going to wait the 16 weekes
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkNot following the rule is like paying $400 for $100 worth of growing.
why is that? because you will stop making gains?
There are also guys that simply gain and drop muscle when going off and on.. and never really improve that much.. While some guys that keep on going realy transform in 2 to 5 years from beginning competitor to international champions and even Pro bodybuilders. Afcourse with building up dosages and GH.
I have seen alot of competitors non stop oncycle-pct-oncycle-pct...
Also seen some Ifbb Pro's in my country who just stay on gear for over a year... some say they never go off... i now for a fact that the guys i spoke that did cycle for one year.. recovered just fine with Nolva,clomid and HCG. I am very intrested in some scientific proven efidence about axis that wont recover and young bodybuilders that really need HRT after years of steroids. Because the only studie i have seen was about a bodybuilder that did steroid abuse for over 13years without doing a proper PCT. Some years later his sperm was stil dead and his test was stil shut down. But even he eventually started to recover after treatment from his doctor with some kind of PCT meds. So where do all these time on +pct = time off stories come from? Be free to post a readable study... But as long as we all dont have studies and only stories. Afcourse the time on+pct = time off storie sounds the safest thing to do!!
tread-mI'm not sure how many studies there are on this because you would have to pueposely damage some people to get your answers..lol. I do know several people just here alone under 30 and on trt with test below 200 from abuse. Frankie has told his story openly so I don't mind mentioning him either. In fairness, I help a few people with very low test at very yyoung ages that never did gear in thei life so it can happen with or without abuse but I have seen enougbh abusers witbh damaged levels from use to know it is real and it is in my higher numbers than those who are damaged with no use prvious to the low number. The time on time off thing is a good number because you have to think first , you natty does not really recover fully for about 8 weeks post last pin. so if someone is starting the new cycle at the end of every pct run 4 weeks on average before they made full recoveriy that actually likely more dangerous thn blast and cruise in terms of potential to damage natty healthy numbers. I can't give you much more other than once recovered in 8 weeks the body has time to normalize under current suggested protocols and that normalization may he the healthy way to go.
Thanks for your response! Its good to have the experience of others when there isnt much scientificly supported efidence.
Just follow the rule
Frankieexample
12 weeks on test e = 2 weeks ester clear time = 4 week pct = 18 weeks
get bloods done after 16 weeks off being off to see were you at (16 weeks of)
another example
8 weeks test prop + 3 day ester clear time + 4 weeks pct = 12 weeks 3 days
get bloods done after 9-10 weeks off and see were your at ( 9-10 weeks off)
blood are the only way of knowing whats really going on in there .
haveing a month off after say a 12 week cycle is not the way to do things as pct would have just been a waste of time and you might aswell cruse for 4 week opposed to pct .
Would you consider a cruise acceptable at age 25?
You have to allow your body enough time to produce its natty test all over again, so the answer to your question is no. TIME ON PLUS PCT = TIME OFF.
I would say no but I bet people have done it. I'm sure there are a lot of uninformed users out there who just gets their info from their src at the gym.