posted Wed, 04/25/2012 - 18:02
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Low dose/trt TEST with high DECA dosage
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This has been in the back of my mind for some time.. I know many of you have seen a lot of threads about ppl doing a TrT/low dose of test with Tren which gave many guys fewer of the negative expected tren sides and more of the good sides AND you're stick shift still works from trt dosed test.... SOOOO it's bugged me has any one done this with Deca.. it's such a great bulker... The only threads i find on it are guys running solo deca which im just not that interested in doing.
Thoughts?
experiences?
Knowaguywhowasalabratforthismaybeh???
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I'd say as long as you use caber you would be fine. Also Don't use too much AI's because with a low test dose you won't be having high estrogen anyways. Using AI's will lower your sex drive
You can run it like this but most people get deca dick, however I have read threads on other sites where people claim to be running very high deca low test with no problems, I would advise it but if your gonna run it good luck and let us know how it goes.
also, many people that report deca dick did not use hcg or caber or worse yet did a deca only cycle. deca gets a really bad rap from people using it the wrong way. taking cialis or viagra would also increase your chance of not getting DD.
I am going to try this out with my 150mg trt- 500iu hcg 2x a week with caber at o.5mg 2 x a week. If deca dick is noticed i will be on npp so it will be reveresed asap. keeping yours balls working (hcg) and the prolactin down (caber) will do a lot to prevent deca dick. obviously it can still happen but i think i will be ok on only 400 mg of npp
AnonDeca is almost ALWAYS run at a 2;1 ratio of test to deca...the difference is without going into a lot of detail is that tren and test will "fight" for the same receptors with tren being significantly stronger than test.. if you run test and tren at high dosages you are basically wasting the test because the tren over powers it. This is not true in the case of deca even though you might be thinking ..well, it is a 19nor, the action isn't the same hence it is recommended high test with deca and low test with tren.
unlimitedyour info is always so spot on grl!
That pretty much answered a post of mine. But......
Does that mean if you run deca at 600mg, test needs to be 1200 mg?
essentially, but then again, be moderate about it..... dont jump onto a shit ton of gear if you have not ran many cycles, and your age ect.... have you run deca before?
Yep. But id never take test that high
Although this thread may drift off into the sunset,.............GRRRRL's answer above should be sticked to the top of the forum.
BRAVO GRRRRL,........well done!
X2 for the GRRRL
HardLuck13The gap in thought process is now filled. Now that you were able to articualte it I feel stupid for not thinking that myself. The anabolic ratios of tren and deca are most definitely not the same not even close. Great stuff Grrrl I'm very impressed.
Have you googled DECA DICK,..........yet ?
You get the same effect with tren only or any cycle not using a base of test... this point of keeping a little test to keep your dick working then let the deca do the work..
2:1 correct? So ya don't get limpy.
Stats....age...bf etc.
Theres cycle advice in the forums on deca and test. All of them cite higher test than deca because deca will shut you down. I'm still reading the deca forums as well. Many well written articles and advice from seasoned deca users.
I'm not running this cycle, im in the middle of PCT. I've ran deca enough to know that.. I'm curious about the idea since this type of dosing is doing wonders for tren users.
HardLuck13This is a question worth asking . I have always stuck to a 2:1 test/ deca ratio. I get major water retention with high doses of deca anyway. I have learned to keep my dose very conservative. I'd like to hear if anyone has tried the approach you asked about.
Clearly if you ran high Deca to test ratio it would take a lot of tweaking.. not many ppl have experimented with this kind of dosage.. I mean it's still new to tren users.. Then again apparently Arnold did deca only with dbol and well yeah just look at him back in the day.. But deca shouldn't shut you down any worse than tren which is the border line devil of juice.. So if high tren, low test is working out so well I can't see why high deca, low test wouldn't either..