posted Wed, 02/08/2012 - 21:45
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What's the current thoughts on oral bridging to pct?
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(sorry if this is in the wrong forum, it seems to equally relevant in 3 of the available forums)
Been doing a lot of interesting reading about Dbol being used at the end of a long ester cycle to 'go out with a bang' if you like, getting in some last minute gains.
That led me to reading about just running a low dosage between the last shot of a long ester and the start of pct.
But most of the threads I was reading were 5+ years old.
So what's the current thinking? Do many bro's run a low (or high) dosage of Dbol, or any other oral to bridge to pct?
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This is just my experiance. My first cycle in May 2011, I dosed a sust blend at 500mg a week. Within the first 5 weeks I gained 12lbs then just solidified my gains until the tenth week. I had a bottle of h-drol a legel designer oral steroid. Its used for cuts and can be used to bulk. It doesnt aromatise so I didnt have to worry about more water weight. Believe it or not I gained another 6 to 7 lbs and my body was more dence and vascular. I ran it up until PCT. The last week was hell because I had no test levels and was lethergic. Also I couldnt lift heavy cause my joints ached so bad. I ended up cutting the hdrol short a few days, because of sides.
Was it worth it? Yes, to me it was cause when I started pct I lost about 4 to 5 lbs. So I ended keeping 10 lbds well after pct. I think I was in the best shape one month after pct cause I was hard and ripped. I posted a pic in my profile.. Im shure winny or var would be better but I just used what I had.
AnonIMO the best way to "come off" long ester gear is Prop for at least two weeks, 3 would be better. Drop the Prop and begin PCT 4-5 days after last pin of Prop. The plan is to "clear" the long ester ester compound(s) fast and not drag out the Crashing feelings for weeks.
I have done this with great success and passed this along to my Bro's who have used this method and love it.
So are you saying you could run the prop the 2wks in between your last shot and pct? Is it just to help with the crash or is it to help keep gains to?
It did both for me you will retain gains better because you dont crash as much and you can start pct in a few days rather than a few weeks
Nice! Im going to implement that to my next cycle and see how it works. If i was running test e at 500 a week should i do 75(the prop) ed so it ends up at 525 instead of 700 a week dosing at 100 ed?
Really just depends on how you react to prop me personally when i kickstart i use 100 mgs ed then at the end of cycle to taper ill run 75 mgs ed but imo running less than 75 is almost trt dosage
K thanks!
Do some research not on how to use dbol but on how it reacts in the body then you will answer your own question any bridge is pointless unless your on hrt then your just blasting and cruising but anyway dbol will have your natty test levels at near nothing in just a couple weeks now you tell me your thoughts on that
tread-mNo, the last thing you want to do heading out of a cycle is blow estrogen through the roof. I don't mind a var or tbol close but not as a "bridge" as you describe it. You need a full 4 weeks either way. Dbol close, even for 4 weeks is a bad idea in my opinion. Even on aromasin or the like you are pushing all the factors you prefer not to promote at a close when ideally estrogen and shbg as well as water are in check. With those things in check your post cycle will be much more successful and you are much mor likely to keep gains if the gains are quality. Dbol close is not a quality closer IMO for the reasons mentioned as well as you are more likely to drag on the least little crap from diet unless you are dialed in like big show style on the lean part of it. Just a no for me all the way around.
AnonI call Dbol a "puffer". Why would a guy want to pull in water and bloat up coming off is beyond me.