posted Wed, 12/14/2011 - 05:19
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Winter Cycle
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Ok so this is what I've finally decided on for my winter cycle. Any thoughts or feed back would be great. Thanks guys.
14 weeks total
1-4 Test Prop 100MG eod
5-9 dbol 50 mg ed
1-14 Tese E 600mg wk
1-12 Deca 400mg wk
adex on hand
caber on hand
pct hcg/clomid/nolva
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tread-mLooks good, I would personally run the dbol at 40 split 1-4 with the prop and blow the cycle open and then pop in a mild adex eod or every 3 and run it out nice and smooth eating big on lean meat. The dbol and deca combo by the time everything is kicked will give me the bloats pretty bad on water but if you have no problems there then I cant oppose what you have. I do like the quick off to the races thing and a smooth run on the final two thirds myself though and then pull the deca 2 weeks early as you have and then finish up with a prop taper dialing in the shed on the water completly before pct.
tread, i dont understand the prop taper technique, wouldnt that be too much test since the esters would be built up from the test e? it seems like over kill by throwin in prop for that last few weeks, can you explain that to me?
tread-mI kinda hate to put these things out as they are really tools for more experienced users and I dont know your level of experience. If you were someone who has lets say 3 cycles under your belt, I might taper you this way. Week 10 pop your last long ester and then one week later bring in 50ed or 100 eod of prop and run that through your week 13 and then run 50 eod week 14 and begin pct the day of your last pop. During the taper is a good time for an hcg jump start given you ran deca in the stack but not altogether necessary. There are 10 ways to taper and the way I used before I began blast and xruise I wont even tell you because its terrible information for newer users that dont know gear and how it works in their own body very well. Long time users knowing there body so well with gear might change their own cycle 2 or 3 times to make adjustments to to make those recommendations would simply confuse newer users and likely screw them up much more than help. Thats the reason for the strict protocols you see all of us put out. We do it so newer users will learn their body's reaction to each compoujnd individually and collectively and as years pass you can make smart decisions and changes in tweaking and perfecting your body with goals. For newr guys there is little to tweak so the standard protocols also serve as a way to get a soliid foundation and about the time you have that you are beginning to really know how gear reacts toy your body and which gear you react to best. A taper is a very good tool to deliver you to pct though and IMO you have an easier time keeping quality gains given there is not this sudden drop in free test. Slow delivery to off time can benefit mood as well IMO. The off cycle depression time may be lghter from the mental aspect since there was a gradual delivery to it as opposed to the BAM, HERE YOU ARE! lol. Anywy, its an opinion thing and mine is to taper and if you use both methods over the years to see which suits you I bet taper is the answer and then of course, you will get to where you have your own method of taper which might be extreme compared to this.
wow, thanks bro, makes much more sense now, i'm gonna research this a bit more considering i have a while to make my decision i might end up tapering similar to this, i have plenty of prop if i deciede to. appreciate the help!
JtizzleKinda my way of thinking as well
Jtizzlemaybe move HCG up during cycle a bit , also (and I am not a expert at all) but why wouldnt you move the d-bol up to match your prop weeks 1-4? Is that a way to extend the kickstart to week 9?
by week 5 the test e and deca should be in full swing, dropping the prop and adding in the dbol will bump it up another level.
Jtizzlegotcha , Good luck and keep everyone posted with results
will do thanks bro.