posted Sun, 12/11/2011 - 17:38
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i need cycle advice
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i did post part of this under anabolic steriods but i thought it was more sutable here k bro got now that i got my stats up. i got some abluteral on the way going to do that for 2 weeks. and then i got winstrol vial and orals on the way, also have tbol. also went in with a bro on some sust deca and eq but hes not getting that for a week we each go a vial. can you help me with a cycle?
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tread-mBrother you are all over the place here, I'm wondering if you're already on some kind of recreational drug as you type this. You posted your cycle experience and its a how to of what not to do. Sauce at 1000 for a newb, have you ever looked at a chart for how sauce stacks in ester by cycles end? Your diet is not even mentioned AT ALL. Heres what you do, run 500mg of test for 12 weeks and run proper pct and bust your ass in the kitchen and gym and prove you belong here. Stop talking tweaker cycles for your weight. You are looking for compounds to do your work for you and thats not how you build, not even close! Do you even know what pct is? This is harsh in terms of language but It seems like you are a complete disaster as of today. Make this happen and come back and lets move you forward in the right way. Building is 90% diet and your answer to that is albuterol...do you have asthma? Come on brother, you got this quit Fing around here.
sgtstedanko2nd : )
and with the 500mg of test do you think i should throw in any tbol or winstrol at first or end or wait for second cycle?
tread-mYeah brother I appreciate all the research you are doing and I say as grrl said here, start over and start clean and do a test run and keep losing the weight dialing the diet in like crazy! Run your adex .25 eod maybe with your bf to keep the water minimized and the strogen down and again, get on this diet like paint..it is your new religion kinda thing. Nice work on the weight so far, you are heaaded in the right direction.
how long to you think i should run the test the 6 or 12 week and say if i go sust should i increase it at any point? i want to do this right.
tread-mNo dont increase it and especially sauce. Sauce stacks off the charts witbh each passing week so it is increasing itself. 12 weeks for sure unless you are doing mini cycles but I think keep it basic to get you on point. Now everyone will tell you test is test but there is something to be said about the way esters carry and release. For me personally, and I dont care what anyone says, I carry more water on sauce than I do on enanthate or prop. Prop is everyday or eod so enanthate may be my favorite for your situation. Either way, running the adex as we said to help the estrogen and water until you can get that bf down will work nice for you.
what about pct? what should i run that adex or nolvadex and or some clomid?? and like i said im gyno prone so i was thinking maybe letro? instead of the adex? what do you think and def what you think abou pct
bro thank you finally for a little positivity! i have been on my diet damn hard core and bro i love food. ha its just im not 21 i cant eat anything and burn it off so i mean im very strict on what i been eating. if you could pm me some diet advice or anyone on here cool!!! and i did want to fun some sust i did it in the past and loved it! its a nice blend do you think that thats ok as the test? and one think i think i may have some gyno from back in the day. i was advised to do the letro while on cycle or what do you think if im gyno pron? and for pct. what do you recommend noveldex or whatever i used during cycle and some clomid? i got alot of mixed reviews. but for real i was considering some ephedrine but you know what fuck it im going to work a little harder thats all! when im in there getting it in and usually would call it a night ima go another half hr or 45, its support like you just gave me that makes me feel like wanting to go harder, you do hrdbodygrrrl thanks bros and lady.
AnonNo run a test only cycle..know how your body reacts to the test that way when you add compounds you will know what t attribute to your gains AND side effects
come on bro im no tweeker and not on any drugs if you read i was young and very inexperianced i mean it was 9 slmost 10 years ago your talking about that cycle i ran 1000mg of sust last two weeks. and yes i know what ptc is. i took nolvadex. and i have some and some clomid if needed a friend has. thats why im here i didnt have the knowlege when i ran previous cycles, i was a kid bro. there wasnt this much info on the net then, there wasnt even cable internet it was dailup.ha im was living in lv with a roomate man on my own working 50 hr weeks and trying to get into the gym for all the hours i could. i didnt specify diet bc i didnt know that was part of stats. i mean with my diet. 4 months ago i was up to 260 and down to damn near 220, and havent touch a sup. and no seriously with the albuteral thing i read an article that it has the same affects as clen with the half life so you dont have the shaking symptoms and insomnia. i didnt order it yet thats why i was asking bro, i mean like i said im not braging im not making shit up. i was no where near where you are at my peak, but i work hard especailly on my diet now. its hard not to eat what you want bro. i mean im trying i need some direction. so serious that article i read on albuteral is bs? i shouldnt get it? look at what ive researched
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Clenbuterol%20vs.%20Albuterol.html
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Albuterol.html
this is from steroids 101
Albuterol, like its closely related chemical cousin Clenbuterol, is an asthma medication that has been adopted by athletes and bodybuilders as an ergogenic aid. Like Clenbuterol, Albuterol binds to the so called beta 2 adrenergic receptors found on cells throughout the body. The beta 2 receptors on fat cells activate an enzyme called hormone sensitive lipase. This breaks up stored fat into free fatty acids that are able to then leave the fat cell and serve as a fuel source in other tissues. In athletes the primary target of these fatty acids is working muscle. This is the familiar process we know as lipolysis. Albuterol, like Clen, is a potent lipolytic agent. But simply freeing up fat is not enough. Unless the body can burn the extra FFA they will simply be reincorporated into fat. Albuterol has the ability to elevate a person's metabolic rate so these FFA can be utilized for fuel.
Numerous animal studies have shown that Clenbuterol increases both muscle size and strength; data supporting these effects in humans are sp. Albuterol on the the other hand has been shown to significantly increase both strength and endurance in humans (1,2). As an added benfit, Albuterol lowers LDL and total cholesterol, while at the same time elevating HDL, the "good cholesterol":
"Significant alterations (P < or = .02) were observed in total cholesterol ([TC] -9.1% +/- 2.5%), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol ([LDL-C] - 15.0% +/- 2.9%), and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol ([HDL-C] +10.4% +/- 3.2%) concentrations, as well as the TC/HDL-C (-17.4% +/- 2.6%) and LDL-C/HDL-C (-22.9% +/- 2.4%) ratios." (3)
4 mg of Albuterol taken approximately 1 to 2 hours before a workout allows for peak plasma levels to be reached during the training session. Additionally the much shorter half life of Albuterol compared to Clenbuterol allows one to benefit from its ergogenic effects during a training session but not suffer the sleeplessness that many Clenbuterol users experience. Moreover, the short half life leads to much less beta 2 receptor downregulation than with Clenbuterol, allowing one to use the drug daily for longer periods of time. On the other hand, if one is primarily interested in fat loss rather than performance enhancement, one could take 3 or 4 multiple doses of Albuterol throughout the day, always of course cutting back if Clenbuterol-like side effects are felt.
AnonDid the nice article on albuterol tell how you can ruin lung functioning and make yourself dependent upon it if used improperly and or at all? Did the nice article tell you the dangers of Clen if you have an underlying cardiovascular illness?
no bro it didnt. thats why i asked for advice. i didnt or havent used either i was considering the albuteral but thats out the door and i thank you for all your advice man i take it to heart. but dont think im lazy and looking for a fiz it pill, bro i been on my diet and cardio going on 5 months down 40 pounds all naturally!!!! i just got mixed reviews on that im not where near competition nor do i want to be, i have a cousin that is in competion well was until he tore his rotator cuff 2 years ago he was mr pittsburgh one year between 06 and 08, so i really just want to get nice and lean muscle and cut up, and i have the time now to get in the gym and do it!!! thats y i was playing on runing winstol first, but you think even tho my bf will be a little higher than most i should still run test, i mean i havent purchesed anything but a bottle of sust, i was looking into the staniol the oilbased stanzanol but idk man thats why im asking and researching, what do you think about ephedrine? i mean in moderation i know its not the best for the heart but i know main reason they took it off market was fucking tweeters making thier bs and blowing up labs all over. so i take all advice from you experianced guys! i want to use the suppliments with least side effects possible to come out of this cut up and maintain it with hard work!
AnonWork diet and training including rest are 97%of the game....don't depend on 'weight" loss agents to do it for you...and by the way, I am a grrl
oh i ment no disrespect i just been on this bro thing. i should have noticed from the hardbody grrrrl damn im sorry. i still respect your advice my friend is a female and competes and was the little quiet girl in school now she a beast i mean big arms but and still a very beautiful girl. so im sorry if you took the bro thing wrong i appologize
AnonNo just thought I'd point it out:-)
well its doesnt make me think of any less of ur advice if anything i might listen more lol. just cuz i want to get lean muscle and cut and look good for my self and the ladies:) i just need guideness. i keep being told wen ready to start cycle to start with test but i thought winsrtol was to get cut with winny tabs or start with sust and tbol and end with the winny what do you think as you personal advvice
AnonYou can get lean on a test only cyle .. as you add more compounds you decrease future effectiveness unless you start increasing the dosages... if you don't run a test only cycle and keep it simple you run the risk of side effects and not knowing what compound is causing them...then how do you treat..not only that but you don't know what to attribute the gains to. Not everyone does well with each compound, so in future cycles you don't really have any idea if the test worked well, the sust worked and why, etc ad adnaseum...keep it simple you find what you like and what works....winstrol is a tool..if you you don't eat properly train properly all the winstrol in the world won't make you lean....all the test in the world won't make you lean YOU make you lean
How about some stats and cycle exp like mentioned below.
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first cycle i ever did. i was entirely too young but i was 18 senior year i did 6 weeks of winstrol im and oral.
second cycle when i moved to vegas i was 21 we did the mexico trips, so i did sustenon, deca and the pink 5mg dbols. i cant remeber what i ran per week i think i started 250 and ended 1000 sust and started 50 deca and ended 200 i started at 5mg o d and ened up at 30
last cycle about 3 years about i was going to run some test e, deca, equipoise and dbol 50's no i made it about 4 mayb 5 weeks into cycle and had some family issues lost a love one had to move.........
where im at now trying to get my bf low enough to run a cycle im thinking of getting some winstol im and tabs after i do 2 weeks of clen or albuteral. should be starting the clen or albut next week
Stats Age: 29
Height: 6'2''
Weight: 225
BF: 16% to15.5 % and going down same with wieght
Bro it is not our responsability to look up your stats on your profile. If you are asking for help list your stats. With that said are you adding test into this cycle?
Frankiewhats your cycle experance please?
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