+ 1 The reason why some of you are experiencing significant sides with HGH
I keep reading about people on here that not only suffer from extreme bloat as a result from their HGH use, but also from joint pain.
The answer to this could be the following:
There are two different versions of HGH: somatropin and somatrem
Somatropin is the version with 191 amino acids and hence identical to the growth hormone that is secreted within our bodies. Hence it is associated with much less sides; although users do tend to suffer from a little bloat in the first couple of weeks, this bloat should usually subside after 3-4 weeks. In addition, joint pain should not be an issue.
The other version, somatrem, contains 192 amino acids. It is hence different from our own growth hormone, that is why it is associated with much harsher sides, namely the extreme bloat and joint pain.
Most people on here are buying their HGH from china. I've seen the prices, and with them being that cheap I very much assume that it is the version with 192 amino acids. Real somatropin with 191 amino acids is very expensive to produce, so I doubt that even chinese manufacturers could produce and sell it at these prices if they want to make a profit.
Just something to keep in mind next time you make your HGH purchase.
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This is not true....First off i have used 192 amino and let me tell you that you wont fint it in most places. It is pharm grade most of the time. One of the 192 i have used was tev-tropin by Gate pharm. That was prescribed to me. The 192 is cheaper by $4 an iu in the states. But that doesnt mean you will have more sides. I had the same sides with tev, omni and kigs. All the same. Only thing is the 192 may possible have a minor reversable benifit effect if administered with the wrong drugs.
Everyone is different.
I first noticed this issue when I switched from pharmaceutical grade genotropin (produced by pharmacia GmbH, now belonging to pfizer after the $60 billion takeover) to chinese blue tops.
Whereas with the pharma HGH my bloat would subside after a maximum of 4 weeks and I didn't have any joint pain, I did suffer from both symptoms with the blue tops.
I looked into this matter to find a reason for it, and found that some bodies may have problems adjusting to an exogenous supply of 192 amino acid HGH, simply because it is different from our own.
i can run 10ius a day of kigs or jins with no problem. but when i first started i had sides at 2 ius but i worked my way up slowly and now have no problems. but when i switched brands from kigs back to jins i had numb hands just for a few days then back to normal. ever now and then i still get the numb hands. i believe everyone reacts different to it. just like with aas some people get zits some do not. some go bald some do not. some get night sweats on tren some do not. get my point?
tread-mSo explain to me how it would be any cheaper to stack a chain of 192 amino's in a precise order when compared to stacking a a chain containing 191? The last independant study I found on kigtropin for example showed kig at 92% pure I believe. all that means is that on average the chain stacks met the exact 191 in count and the other chains were likely broke in the process. this will be true of somatropin as well to varying degree. 191 is growth, the sides and bloating etc are for very specific reasons and I can assure you, somatropin will have the exact effect if used improperly. Take your somatropin and start at 5 iu's and see if you have joint issues. If you use 5 iu's of somatropin as a beginner and dont bloat it means you didn't stall any hormone at all and it is likely fake. There is an effect on all hormones when using any hormone because they all work together and if you dont have the "equal reaction" in another area even if it is simply stalling T-4 and slowing down insulin then something is wrong. Now I'm talking about blasting it in a cycle, in a cruise I have zero effect or sides as will most. Start very low and slowly increase and you will usually have no issues at all provided you know wbhat you are doing and know how to prevent hormone and insulin stall etc. You are not designed as a human to need or use 5 iu's and up so if you can run that volume of any 191 and have no problems at all, something is wrong.
Tread?
Lol, he's probably busy with the family.
Mad MattIve found that real rhgh 191 will tend to bloat you and give you joint pain but these sides soon disappear where as some of the crap coming out of china will give these sides permanently and many more...
Is there any way to prove which one is the somatrobin compared the somatrem or would you know by the side effects?
good read