MGF is another variant of IGF but uses different passage ways. The researcher that invented MGF didnt want to use IGF so he used Mechano Growth Factor. For years now I have seen user journals of both being used together to get better results. I carry the IGF and IGF Des. you should try the Des

As far as cost, keep an eye out with the peptide suppliers near and around holidays. They usually have sales when they'll kick the prices down. Seems like prices have come down over the past year.

I like these two compounds. I have run a few courses of these, each independent of AAS, and noticed decent results from them. The best results came when used in conjunction w/ GH. Benefits seemed to be somewhat short lived, but I imagine stacking them with AAS will promote a longer lasting effect (also, i didn't dose as heavy with it as some). When I ran IGF w/ gh but w/o mgf, i would pin 50 mcgs immediate PWO, split bilaterally and chased it with heavy protein shake. It provided good recovery times, increased vascularity, and fuller muscle mass. When I ran it with MGF PEG, I would pin muscles with PEG MGF the night before working them, and then Pin the Muscles worked immediately PWO w/ the IGF. Stacking the two seemed to amplify the effects. The overall effects were most cosmetic (muscle mass and vasularity). No noticeable strength increases, but a minor stamina/endurance increase (more reps till failure). IGF seemed to enhance fat loss as i lost more fat while on it than i otherwise expected. I plan to atleast run IGF on my next AAS cycle, probably about 4 weeks to give atleast a month off, then incorporate it into PCT to retain AAS gains a little longer and kick the boys back into action a little quicker (did experience a minor libido enhancement on it).

Seriously considering igf-1 lr3, only sticking point is the cost