Need Cycle help for 42 years old guy
Hi guys!
Love this forum you got here! Been reading it for the last 3 weeks and all I can say is frickin badass information and help here... I'm in need of a serous cutting cycle for my age.
Well, I'm 42 years old and been lifting since I was 15 years old. I havent done any cycles for at least 8 years. Ive done deca and test for about 3 sold cycles and hgh solo for about 6 months. And eq and test as my last 12 week cycle 8 years ago.
I'm 5-10' and weigh exactly 180 lbs. now with about 13% bodyfat. Iv'e still got some quality size on me from working out for so long. I want to do a good cutting cycle for my age.
I'd like to get down to 7% bf and shredded within 8 to 12 weeks. I'm just not sure what would be the right steriods I should take for my age and health. Ive read that winstrol and tren would be good. Also Ive read that tren e and test prop might work. I was thinking about "Lixus rip blend" and anavar cause its got everything in it together. Also read that anavar alone is good too. So any help on this would be great!
As far as my health I just got my bloodwork done and I'm gtg. although, My psa is kinda high the doc said. I do windsprints and rauctetball and running for my cardio at least 3-5 times per week and as far as workouts i'm allways changing the shit up so my body doesnt get used to it. Either 2 on 1 off upper and lower or 3 on 1 off split ect.... Also varying the reps and sets from low to high. Thank god I have never had any injuries except for a sore lower back from time to time. And I recoup very fast still for my age.
So as far as my stats and my goals above what would be a good setup for me? I've got enough muscle but could alway use just a little more. I'm looking for that cut fitness athlete look.
I want to thank all who give thier inputand time on post this in advance. Again I'm looking for a good cutting cycle and workout routine to go with it for my age for at least 8 to 12 weeks.
Thanks,
Mesamorph
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Thanks to both Mekanik and chemari re psa information. I will certainly look into this test re my age.
Many thanks!
Hi mezamorph,
If I were you, I'd keep an eye on my psa values. If psa is high before juicing, maybe you're prone to enlarged prostate.
I think is not a bad idea having your psa and free psa checked while ON. Additionaly, I'd suggest taking an AI while on cycle, because enlarged prostate are linked to high estrogen. There's a thread here about that.
Good luck.
Interesting read throughout. However what does psa values mean? How would I get this checked out? I live in the U.K. Sounds a great idea mate.
Cheers.
Daz
Hi,
PSA is checked in a standard bloodwork. Free PSA is checked when total PSA is high.
I was told by my doc not to ejaculate 48 h before the blood was drawn, because it can elevate (slightly) the PSA reading.
Peace.
I think the recommendation is after your turn 40 start checking your PSA levels.
I am not positive on this but I think normal is 0-4.0... mine was a .6 the last check I recall...
edit: yes looking at my Labcorp tests here and states 0.0 - 4.0 is normal
I am over 40 so have had the check 2-3 times and even recently.
Cut from NCI below as I wanted to know more too. My Pop has had prostate cancer...
National Cancer Institute = NCI info fyi below..
Prostate-specific antigen (PSA) is a protein produced by cells of the prostate gland. The PSA test measures the level of PSA in the blood. The doctor takes a blood sample, and the amount of PSA is measured in a laboratory. Because PSA is produced by the body and can be used to detect disease, it is sometimes called a biological marker or a tumor marker.
It is normal for men to have a low level of PSA in their blood; however, prostate cancer or benign (not cancerous) conditions can increase a man’s PSA level. As men age, both benign prostate conditions and prostate cancer become more common. The most frequent benign prostate conditions are prostatitis (inflammation of the prostate) and benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) (enlargement of the prostate). There is no evidence that prostatitis or BPH causes cancer, but it is possible for a man to have one or both of these conditions and to develop prostate cancer as well.
A man’s PSA level alone does not give doctors enough information to distinguish between benign prostate conditions and cancer. However, the doctor will take the result of the PSA test into account when deciding whether to check further for signs of prostate cancer
Anonnot only that but DHT levels are also linked to prostate issues. So compounds that are DHT derivatives can lead to increased PSA levels.. you can take Saw Palmetto supplements which are useful in counteracting DHT.
Well, I can be wrong, but I'm not totally agree with that.
If a compound is a DHT derivative, it is 5-alpha reduced already. So taking a 5-alpha blocker won't do anything.
Saw palmetto and finasteride will work preventing testosterone being reduced to DHT. So if someone is prone to enlarged prostate, maybe is good avoid DHT derivatives.
Cheers.
AnonNo problems here if you don't agree. In fact this is what learning involves. I haven't picked up a LOT of research on the saw palmetto but what I have read and conversations with other professionals is that it blocks the dht not just the conversion from testosterone. I will look into it further.
Wish you're right. If saw palmetto blocks dht, that would be much better than blocking 5-alpha reductase.
In fact, the ideal situation would be saw palmetto binding to androgen receptor only in prostate tissue, something like what nolva does in breast tissue.
I will look into it too.
Best regards.
Anonactually you just jogged my memory..something does bind to block the receptor in the prostate.. damn.. I ve read so much stuff lately it is going to take me a million years to find it again.. I remember thinking it was pretty neat ..
OE2000Well think gurl, think..... I'll check too
Hi,
I found this in mayo clinic web:
... Multiple mechanisms of action have been proposed, and saw palmetto appears to possess 5-α-reductase inhibitory activity (thereby preventing the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone). Hormonal/estrogenic effects have also been reported, as well as direct inhibitory effects on androgen receptors and anti-inflammatory properties...
It seems to me that mechanisms of action are not clear at all.
Anonespecially when it says this..
nothing real conclusive there if it blocks the dht at all
Anondamn O.. research for you, research for work.. research research.. I m up to my eyeballs in articles and research and work..lol.
But they are such pretty eyeballs.
Anonthe blue hair sets them off ..
OE2000LMAO... I gotta keep you on your toes!!!
You can lose a good amount of fat on a test-only cycle provided you're eating clean. I would go with Test only, since a "cutting" cycle just isn't recommended for your first cycle. You need to find out how you're going to respond to each compound gradually.
But Mikey makes a good suggestion about Rip Blend..it's one of my fvorite "cocktail" compounds, and will be very effective the more you BF level goes down.
AnonSince this is your first cycle I would highly recommend that you stick with test e or test p only. Rip Blend is appropriate for an advanced cycle ( a cycle after which you know what effects and sides you get from each of those compounds). An oral only cycle will give you good gains but you will be unable to maintain them once you are off cycle so while you will Love the results from a Var only cycle you will lose 90% of what you worked so hard for. The important thing for just starting out is not to stack compounds so you can tell what is effective for your personal physiology and should you get sides you will know how to counter them effectively.
Hey Mez, yes I do believe the ripped blend is the same as the andromix. I use 1ml ED for 4 weeks thats 28ml or roughly 3 10ml vials. I run the normal pct clomid&nolva after for at least 3 weeks, I try to do 4 but fricken hate clomid. I usually start about 3 days after last pin. Good luck man.
Hey mesomorph i'm about the same age. Your psa scares me a little since I have heard alot of the gear can cause prostate enlargement. Here is my 2 cents....
My last two cycles I have used GP andromix, there are a few other similar makers out there....basically 50MG Test P, 50MG tren A, 50MG Mast P. for each 1ML. To me this is good shit.
I also have the same lifting history as you. Because of your/our age I would recommend you run this for 4 weeks to try it out. Run it 4 on then off for 4 then again a couple times.
This stuff has really given me the look I was looking for and not getting with years of exercise and good eating. My love handles melted off with this stuff....
hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
MikeyZ,
Sweet info! I'll look into it. Its sounds simular to rip blend if i'm correct? Also how many cc's per week or eod deal like rip blend? Also are you using clomid ect... after the 4th or 5th week after each cycle? This might be just what da doctor ordered.LOL!
Peace!
Mez
I've never done the rip blend but I have done my share of prop and tren mixed together and those compounds would probably serve very helpful in achieving your goals.
I don't care for Winstrol (achy joints), but that's just me. Lots of others swear by it. Tren has more sides than most other AAS but the positive effects are so damn good, I keep going back.
You've done hgh, so I assume you're fine with ED or EOD injections; Rip or the individual compounds separately would need frequent dosing.
You may also want to consider Anavar; a little pricey but you would be able to get some benefit out of it as you get leaner.
Good luck with it
I was thinking possibly another cycle of test and eq again for 12 weeks and then anavar at the 8 to 12 week mark. Whats your take on this?
tread-mTest prop, ghrp6 and cjc1295......not opposed to a short run of tren in there if you really want to get sick as hell shredded with the peps. Welcome to PM if this sounds interesting . Be back tomorrow too and give time for more suggestions here. Nice discipline in your read here and good job on it all! Might even talk to you about low end HRT as a cruise for your age and slow the roller coaster down a little if that sounds interesting since you're already on hgh. The addition of some low end eod prop with your hgh on the cruise will allow a much better hpga balance for you and increase the benefits of your hgh dramatically.
Thanks tread-m,
All sounds good but no, I havent been on any hgh or any gear for at least 8 years. But I'm interested in hearing your info on the sick as hell shredded with the Test prop, ghrp6 and cjc1295 and tren though. Please pm me.
tread-mWILL FRIEND NOW JUST HIT ME WHEN YOU CONFIRM
Are you still running the HGH or was that part of what you did in the past? As for what compounds you should use, it sounds like you want to keep it at a shorter length. With that said i would stay away from long esters long Enthanate, Stick to short esters like prop, tren a. Also you want the "Athletic" look is another reason to stay away from Enthanate, you will get some bloat with that which doesnt sound like you want that. Now if you wanted to run Enthanate because of less injections you could always run some arimidex with it. If you are still on the HGH i would say you would do great with just adding in some test and of course a clean diet. If you are not on the HGH anymore, a good prop tren a cycle with clean diet and good lifting should do you nice as well. Really it just depends on what road you are looking to take. I have heard good things about the rip blend so that is a route you could take as well, but i have never used it so cant give real advice on that.
Thanks for the good info! Yes I'm looking for the shredded athletic look instead of the bulk mass now days. And yes, I've been clean From all gear for at least 8 years now. Hgh is just so damn expensive or else that would be the winner cause I liked it when I was on it years ago... Anyone my age got good results with Rip Blend?