Exactly , its really how bad do u want it? I had a phobia of darts. Now I could pin 50 back to back if needed. I weighed 260 and my first cycle was test cyp, I hardly responded to 400mgs a week, bumped up to 800, and it was a night and day difference, but I weighed 260 naturally. I watched my arms go from 18 s to 20.5 in 12 weeks but bloat was off the chain. If u want a hard look do prop, like I said if u can't pin everyday maybe u don't want it bad enough? And maybe AAS is not Ur way to go.

all comes down to personal preference

just to offer a counterpoint to hilwdbboy's point:

my first cycle was test prop only. i pinned every day. i went from having a minor needle phobia (took me like 20 min to get my 1st shot in me lol) to actually looking forward to pinning a couple weeks later.

like he said, know what sites to use and how to pin them, aspirate, and use a small g needle in order to minimize pain/scar tissue/inflammation.

but don't be scared by the EOD or ED injects, you get used to it pretty quickly....the whole process of opening an amp, drawing the oil out, swabbing the injection site, sticking yourself, aspirating, and injecting is 1 or 2 min out of your entire day. dont stress it too much.

i love the look and feel prop gives me and wont run any other test....love that it kicks in quickly and clears quickly, and blood levels are kept very stable.

i would have to disagree... although prop is GREAT (my juice of choice)ed/eod pinning can take some getting used to especially if ur just starting out. i'd suggest going with an enth or cyp @ 250 2xwk for 12 wks. get a little practice hitting the glutes and study up on site rotations before u get into short esters. diet will dictate body comp, so again, research, research, research!

Sixfive325 hit it on the head. You need to do alot of research....you're starting the right way atleast. Definitely would want to run the prop test if u want the hardened look. The cypionate and enanthate will definitely cause water weight and bloating. Unfortunately we can read all the literature and learn all we can before making a decision to alter our bodies through hormones, but everyone reacts a little differently to different esters or combinations of gear. Sometimes u wont know until you run it yourself. Take your time and do all the research u can before making a decision to stick something in your body. Know the pros and cons and do it smart. Steroids get a bad rap because of misinformation and unfortunately alot of dumbass' with unrealistic expectations. Keep your goals reasonable and keep your dosages smart and consistent. There is plenty of smart help to be found on this site. ....but the end decision is yours. Stay heavy!!

Go to steroid.com under drug profiles and read up on all the test esters, stick with propinate to stay hard lookn @ 100mgs a day, the other 2 are longer esters , and ull hold to much water, unless u use nova,letro, prop is shorter ester and less bloat comes with it , u gotta hit it imo, eod, to keep hormone levels up, enanthate once even 4th day,cypionate once a week, since every man is different each ester will affect each individual different, I gain 70lb on my bench with cyp, only 40lb on enanthate, my work out buddy complete opposite.