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2 cycle and cut

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Hallo. I'm 50, 86x1,79 (189 lb x 5,87 ft) 18% . This will be my second cycle, the first one was the classic 12 weeks of Test E and a PCT Novaldex 40 40 20 20 and clomid 100 100 50 50 .
In this 2 cycle i'll add the Winny last 4 weeks as a finisher, for a cuting cycle. I think to start next spring.
I w like to gain more 5 Kg and reduce the fat.
What do you think about it ? Any suggestion?

WeekTestosterone EnanthateWinstrolAromasinNolvadexClomid
1500mg
2500mg
3500mg
4500mg6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
5500mg6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
6500mg6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
7500mg6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
8500mg50mg ED6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
9500mg50mg ED6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
10500mg50mg ED6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
11500mg50mg ED6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
12500mg50mg ED6,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
136,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
146,25 mg ed (.25mg/eod)
1540100
1640100
172050
182050
Teox's picture

I know that if I want both the results is more difficult but my main aim is to take 5 kg, as the second still able to reduce excess fat and define my muscles, mainly through diet and exercise (such as I know), but I thought to get some help through winny.
I train 3 to 4 times a week with a one day only cardio. I eat 5 to 6 meals a day, during the cycle should reach about 200-250 grams of protein a day and a total about 3000 calories maybe more (i'm not very good in the calculations).
I should start in spring next year and meanwhile still decrease the percentage of fat.
I could see that some use the clenbuterol as a stack , shall i ?
Sorry if my English is not correct. Thanks for the help

The Impastable's picture

you don't need to use clenbuterol to achieve your results. That drug is nothing but trouble, heart stresses, palpitations, HBP, it's just not worth it. And it's catabolic to the point where even if you're on cycle it will still chew through muscle.

There is no better way to achieve your results than to just clean up your diet and training. Id say log what you eat for the next 7 days, and I mean log it. What time you eat, what you eat, what amounts, everything. Post that up in the diet clinic and the gurus over there will help you get to where you need to be. You want to gain 5KG, and lose fat? No problem, you can easily attain this before spring if you get your nutrition right, hit the fasted cardio more than once a week, and lift like you mean it, and you can then decide if you want to continue cutting BF% and taking your physique to the next level with AAS usage when spring rolls around

konig's picture

Good shit, clen is the devil +1

Teox's picture

Thanks a lot for answer me, i'll do it ...

The Impastable's picture

Pick, either bulking or cutting, you'll be hard pressed to achieve both at once. Post up your diet so that we can better grasp what your intake is, and your training routine as well. Gear is the cherry on top of the ice cream, it's not the actual sundae.

Darkhorse777's picture

My advice is diet before your next cycle then bulk to gain the muscle you want ...you can either cut or bulk pic one or the other otherwise you'll be wasting your time and money

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Jynxez's picture

I know you dont want to hear this more than likely, but at your bf% winstrol will just make your joints sore. T3 might be a much better choice for cutting. The winstrol wont do anything for you.

The Impastable's picture

You're a fucking idiot. Don't ever recommend T3 to anyone on this forum, especially at your age with "so much experience" I'm sure.

Jynxez's picture

No need to be so hostile. Its a better recommendation than saying yeah bro winni will get you shredded then this guu tears somthing cause it dried him out so bad

The Impastable's picture

It's actually a worse recommendation than winny, but if you knew more about the drugs then you'd understand why.

Jynxez's picture

Well then would u mind explaining why its a worse recommendation either here or in a pm so we arent jacking this guys thread with a debate

The Impastable's picture

FR sent. To any mods looking, I've talked with Jynxez via PM and he understands why his suggestion was wrong. Please delete these comments. Thank you.

Jynxez's picture

Yes my suggestion was very miss educated please dont listen to my comment. I apologize for my ill information. I cant delete my comments, but please dont listen to my suggestion.