posted Mon, 05/01/2023 - 09:01
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I need help/suggestions why my body refuses to go into Ketosis…
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So 2 weeks ago I started the carnivore diet, high fatty foods, only meat, cheese, eggs, water. I’m the first 3 days, I hit 4.0 on the urine test strips, but after that, it hovers around 5, or not at all. I haven’t cheated once. I’ve eaten only meat, boiled eggs, cheese block cheese, and water. I sometimes add a crystal light water flavor that has zero carbs, sugars, etc, and then put keto chow electrolyte drops into it to replenish my body. Until last night, I’ve had zero carbs, and last night I had a banana. Nobody I know that does keto or carnivore can explain why I’m not in ketosis. I’m dumbfounded. Any thoughts or suggestions. And I know for 100% I haven’t cheated myself or anything like that.
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Anyone tryna stay in keto long term needs to implement bile salts like tudca or ox bile otherwise you will hit a wall.
Running out of bile - your body won't absorb fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, K, and omega. You'll end up having a hard time converting to ketones.
In addition to what others have said, if the Crystal Light is sweet, it can cause an insulin release. This will inhibit the L-Carnitine chain, which is necessary for the mobilization of FFAs for fuel.
Side note, if I'm on a high fat regimen I like to drink heavy whipping cream. So satisfying.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32284053/
SugaryliciousIn a carnivore diet, it's possible that the high protein intake could affect ketone production. Excessive protein consumption can be converted into glucose through a process called gluconeogenesis, potentially reducing the production of ketones.
Interesting, at what point (caloric wise) would this process most likely take place? I’m on the carnivore diet now and I’m pretty sure I’m not exceeding past 2000 calories
See my post below
pineradylanHave you actually used the piss sticks to see if you're in ketosis or not? I've found, like others have said, it does take 2-3 weeks of strict dieting to get there.
It takes several weeks to get into ketosis, and then several weeks to stay there. Any cheat before your body completely switches gears will drop your out of ketosis.
It's not just carbs, it's sugar. Beets, BANANAS, turnups; are food examples you might not suspect, are off limits...
Calories in and colories out along with a clean diet....
Carnivore is not Keto. I've done keto and you are too low on Fats. It's not that great at building muscle. If your goal is to lose fat then switch to an actual keto diet. If you're trying to build a solid physique I'd reconsider the carnivore and add some carbs.
I understand that, I was honestly just trying this to lose weight and to try it out. I wanted to test my will also. This was only going to be a 1 month or 2 test to lose weight, then I was going to switch to a more standard diet. I wasn’t going to use this for building muscle. I also understand it’s not Leto, but I assumed the effects would have been similar is all I meant. Several of my friends are on it, but their strip readings were what you would expect. And about the fat, you may be on to something about that.
A real keto diet takes a lot of discipline. I personally can't run it longer than a month lol. There are no cheat meals if you're serious.
My wife knows it better than me but if done correctly you will shed body fat fairly quick. Like Makwa said below you'll have to run a lot higher on fats and drop protein down. Everyone is different, what works for me doesn't mean it will work for you.
You are eating too much protein; hence keto is one of the dumbest things a bodybuilder can do, assuming you are trying to build or even maintain muscle anyway. A high protein supposedly keto diet will not put you into ketosis, reason being, the body converts protein into glucose. You need to keep protein low when trying to go into ketosis. Max in your diet should be 25% of cals from protein. You should be looking at something like 75/20/5 fats/protein/carbs if trying to do a keto diet. High protein even though you could have zero carbs is not ketogenic.
RustyhookerStarvation mode and body holds everything? You exercise at all?
5 days a week, about 1.5 hours a day.
I think he meant cardio, ya know, exercise, lol
RustyhookerThank you sir....yes, after weights cardio since carbs are burned up then fat is forced to come into play
I run for 30 minutes every workout as well lately, as I've been trying hard to tighten up my routine. I'm not going to stay on this diet exactly. Im gonna just modify it to a normal clean diet, while taking in less calories. The only reason I was attempting it was to get the fat burning benefits on top of my normal routine, but cutting out all carbs, sugars, etc. I'm just going to modify it to keep all the sugars out, but start adding in healthy carbs, but leave the junk and other crap out.