+ 3 Reviews to get in on a promo
Do a bit of detective work after you read this, it won't take a lot of your time up I promise. What you're looking for is the quantity of reviews that magically appear as soon as a source comes up with a promo along the lines of "customer appreciation for customers who have recently reviewed our products". Then, all of a sudden, a load of reviews appear. Good ones of course, 10's all the way.
So, several thoughts occur to me. Why didn't you write the review anyway? Why do you have to be "paid" to do so? Don't you owe it to the community to tell them what the source and their products are about? Isn't the pool of resource available here worth the measly price of writing honest reviews without having to get freebies out of it?
I'm shocked by how many members get excited over a bottle of free prop / 50 dbol etc. I appreciate that we are all in different financial positions, but really, £20 / $30?
The effect of these reviews I'm afraid to say is it distorts the whole review process. There are source review pages without a review for a week with 5 reviews in the last 24 hours because they're giving away freebies. Those reviews are worthless in my eyes, they're "paid" reviews. I completely ignore just about anything you review. I understand why it's an attractive method for a source, but it devalues the system. Is it simply buying rating numbers? Is it any different to receiving a PM saying have £500 worth a freebies for a great review? Does it need looking at?
Tough one? Discuss.
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AnonI'm not making this post in any relation to thinking the OP was about us, I'm just putting in my .02. Honestly that's the entire intent behind a promo - exposure. It's a billboard, ad-space. I can't imagine why someone would leave 10's though if they weren't happy. I could see the motivation behind actually finally writing a review, feeling obligated since it was free, but at the same time, we made note to and saved every single e-mail telling customers specifically to review "whether POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE". If you know your T/A is going to be solid when you launch the promo and you know the quality of the promotion product is solid, you're obviously going to get stars across the board. One idea would be to disable people from voting on price since they didn't purchase, but then again if the item is priced the same as other top sources, it doesn't need to be 'experienced' to review the pricing. Pricing and communication are pretty much two things that could be voted upon withot being a customer almost.
I don't understand the sources and reps who specifically ask for a positive review and doom themselves. If your product is legit and you're giving it for free, you shouldn't doubt or even have to specify a 'good' review.
I ve been looking at this post for a few days and being on both sides of the fence I have a unique perspective. You hardly see anything other than 10s regardless unless of course you've got someone who REALLY does want to give a real review. This phenomena isn't just limited to rating juice, it goes across the board in almost all things.. I can recall getting reviews in the militiary (you get points and points make or break your promotion and often your career because if you don't move up fast enough they kick you out) and it was very RARE to not get ALL the points. You had to be a real F up to not get points. Same for Grad School.. basically you show up and unless your work is complete crap you get an A maybe an A-... my point is this ratings are inherently flawed to some degree based on the accepted standard.
Second, being a source, it is like PULLING TEETH, to get someone to post a review and vote. So you offer an incentive to vote, I know that in the past I have offered 10-15% off to get reviews and votes, it is just simply good marketing. I don't discriminate either 1 karma or 2000 karma, you write a review and post pics you get the discount. I am running a business after all, not a public service. I have every confidence in my product so I don't feel as if I am buying good reviews but I am buying more business because I can say without a doubt that higher rankings get more business. I m pretty happy with where I am or I'd certainly push the vote thing a lot more. We all know if we've been around that the top ten sources really push voting, that is a fact of life, get used to it. My sincerest apologies if I have offened anybody with my honesty.
Can't see why anyone would be offended. Good to get your opinion as a source. I would say I think there's a major difference between how you operate your promos in this respect and others.......
i think alot of new/ newer steroid users or beginners, and also new members to the site just get so excited when they either receive there first few packages because they are new to steroids excitement just gets to them, and the new members who are so excited that the site is legit and they get there stuff they just go all out tens, you can tell by the words used, then you have the people who are financially struggling who are running low on juice and they get some test prop and some dbol which actually keeps them'"on" untill there next pay check, again they are so stoked for this reason, they go all out 10s, its just a matter of reading through properly, and at the end of the day, find someone you trust, with good gear yourself, dont rely on others too much, yes it helps but experiment yourself, like myself, i had too make multiple, multiple small orders from different sources too find the ones with the best gear, comms and packaging, yes it took a long time, but it pays off, there is a shit tonne out there and majority are good, just find what works best for you ( for newbs lol)
Excellent post cat, and I see exactly what your saying.,and the reason you feel the way you do is (your like me.). I have a genuine.care.for what I love and helping who ever also has that passion ... But we are not all in this for them reasons ,people will be people.if its free its for them ,and .....i can go on all.day on this you know that ... And ill be honest I just made a.order ,and my man wanted me to try a oral and.some sust he had. And hes like I'm throwing that in...... My fucking word as a man I told him ,he must make money also ,and for the cost of.another 60.00$$$. But everyone I not like us ,, and I assure you the majority of newer members here and where else I from are swamped.with 16,18,21 year olds still in school on allowence and a free bottles of test.....they go sale it to there boys make a 100 $$ and really bro I think this is the reality of it ....i use.to go off on this shit ,,and irishmask a d others would tell me.pege chilll ain't nothing we can do ...
A d as far as I'm concered with review ,I know who I trust I know who I think is real(we can never be sure). And I see where they are frequenting .and but it is a shame. because you cant count on the board without doing your.own research. Meaning 15 fanbous nuthuggers get a few free bottles and all of a sudden.++++++++++is on top of the game .fucking sources are a dime a dozen and no disrespect ... Ut I feel.you cat.,and nust wants.to chime in here excuse sources come and go BUT. Look.at.the solid ones that.stick ... My respect to them and theres only.a few.(doms) and they get my respect others 4 month run and gone.
Let me just put this out there, if your sole purpose here is to go from promo to promo or from unverified new source to source trying to hustle free gear, eventually we are going to find out. If we see a pattern of reviews and put together that there is no way you could have used all that gear yourself we are going to catch on. Your first offense may just be a stripping of karma (depending how much audacity is involved) but if it happens again you will likely be toast here.
#Sources should not be taken advantage of anymore than all of you should be. Guys we are all here and want this place to be the best and to be as safe and honest as possible under the circumstances. Don't be a greedy prick.
Rosser01There was a promo like a week ago that stated this and that for a review from the past or to write a review if you have not and have used there products. I found it funny that when I went in to look at the reviews for this source because I have never tried them and wanted to know a little something about there products that like the first ten reviews were written within a few hours of each other..!!! That kind of shit should not be allowed and I said something to that manner on the si page that is running this promo..!! It gives everyone a false sense of what the source and there products are about..!!!
Promos for writing a good review shouldn't be allowed in my opinion. There is a clear conflict of interests in that whole approach.
They are not. Promos for writing a honest review are.
You're so right. I waited 4 weeks to write my first review so that I could give a real accurate account of my results. I'm halfway through cycle and wifi give full results at end
not to mention why take the risk of getting busted over 50 10mg dbol that would literally cost you probably 20 bucks. If I'm gonna risk it it better be atleast somewhat worth it.
Not worth it IMO. Maybe if u need some small amount and last minute maybe but some of these dudes are in were single dam promo lol no shame
Posted this while back. Thought it was relevant at the time. I think it might be relevant again.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/promo-etiquite
Not that it matters one way or another. There will always be people looking for loopholes. And an easy way in or out
Definitely relevant. Good idea to link.
The review section has become a joke honestly. Im still fairly new to the site, but I remember being overwhelmed when I first arrived at all the reviews. I loved reading them, but they confused the hell out of me because they were so contradicting of each other. It took a few weeks of reading before I realized that 90% of the reviews werent to be trusted....good and bad ones.
Love the review template, and what is expected and enforced for the review section, but damn theres sooooo many that read like commercials....or just flat out source bashing. When its a 1 day old account, its easy to ignore....however, high karma members reviewing for gear really hurts the credibility.
Wish I had a suggestion to improve it, but I dont think we can unless we can improve people in general.
It's the broke ass niggas here that jump on that shit. I suggest that Eroids users make at least 90K a year to be a member otherwise you gonna be taking advantage of the system. Just my thoughts, not really!
90k. Really. I think that there are people on here that make that and then some that would jump on a 50 dbol promo. It's free shit and a penny saved is a penny earned right?
Bro remeber the original fanboy reloaded makes 6figures a yr allegedly was the biggest promo whore till he was blasted lol
Some people with money are the biggest penny pinching fucks u will ever meet
Just like wanted said below
It's always the same bunch of guys that are in those promo Pgs it's pretty pathetic I understand if they need something maybe in their cycle but every promo!! I enjoy purchasing my gear.
Reloaded and ash48 infamous promo whores and there's a lot more these are just an example
I don't understand this problem in any way shape or form. I take very seriously the shit I inject in my ass and I don't go around shopping at all. I have a lab I'm totally satisfied with and have been a customer for 9 years going on 10. Why would I even want to test some other lab's products? The stuff I get is dosed properly (close enough) and priced reasonably. I just turned 38. I'm not going to potentially waste 3-5 months shooting gear from some lab I've no experience with. Because it's free? Not good enough for me. Not even close. I see enough independent lab reports crop up all the time testing the gear from the lab I use. Is the stuff perfect all the time. No. Pretty damn close though. Close enough for me. Pharm gear has a margin of error also. So, sometimes Test E 250 is 238 and sometimes it's 273. Not enough to send me out into the unknown.
That's definitely my train of thought too. If I got a load of crap gear, I'd be more worried about wasting 3-4 months of my time running it than I would the money wasted.
Sorry to say it, but a big percentage of the gear out there is shit.
Its sickening what people are doing for a little free gear . also the sources want another review after they give the gear away but how can somebody honestly review that small amount of gear YOU CANT so then you have 2 bullshit reviews
RustyhookerSo far the sources that are interested in quality have their promo as a sales ad. X% off for X purchased.
The sources aren't stupid in the drug arena. Prompting all 10 marks raises their ranks. Higher ranks and higher sales.
Problem afterwards is when you brag on quality and mark all tens then. ..get blood tested and your low. ..lol. You look flat stupid. Seen that quite often
well, if you look at all the promos going on right now, a couple guys got in in every giveaway, so those are the reviews you can fkn laugh at, they have a little bit of every different supplier so how the fuck are you going to know what worked and what didnt? i order the same thing for an entire cycle so I know what works and what doesn't. My go to place sometimes throws something in and I even deny it because its something I won't use. Why give me a free bottle of deca or tren when its worthless if its only 1 bottle? why give me 1 bottle of prop when its fkn worthless when you have a 9 day supply? How are you going to review 9 days? I used to be all over those but then I fugured out I am only hurting everyone else including myself because you have no integrity if you try and put up a review for 9 days of prop, I cant fkn wait to see all the people claiming they gained x amount of muscle and libido through the roof, or their bench increased by 50 pounds after 4 days.
GearofWarTotally spot on with all of your views. Won't lie or day that when I first started doing this stuff the freebies were amazing and I hadn't clue fucking one on how to use any of this stuff or how long it takes for compounds to work, half-lives, etc so the allure of free bottles being tossed at you is great when you're new, broke, and fucking dumb. Yep I was a stupid dumbass waste of space at one point just bumping whatever freebie lab came in the mail if it was what I was running that particular cycle. And even adding stuff I never intended to use just because it was there. Yessir I was a grade A moron. Fortunately I smartened up. But the very nature of this entire online AAS game caters to the gym rat that's looking for whatever is available here, now, and cheap(preferably free). With the exception of the core group of guys and girls here that take this all very seriously and conduct themselves in a manner that coincides with their beliefs. But most of the people that come here get what they want/need and GTFO. As soon as they get their free gear or discounts that is. They don't care. They're users and abuse the system. It's sad but true. So what if they write up a bunk review? They figure that they'll be gone as fast as they arrived and will just create another user ID for more free stuff next time. It sucks. But I guess we just have to use out own best judgment and weed through the bullshit like we always do. Flawed? Yeah. But I'm pretty sure this is the premiere site for real knowledge and real reviews if you know what you're lookng for. Love it here but with that love comes a healthy dose of exasperation as well.
I've been in a few promos. The difference is I literally have zero reviews. Why? I want to actually use te product standalone to see how it works. That takes time.
I don't feel obligated to write some BS review for a source just because they gave me some gear. I feel obligated to THE COMMUNITY And giving a fair honest review. Even If I can't run the gear for 6 months. Any longer then that and it's just not fair for anyone (source,community etc.) Ever seen hot fuzz? It's a British movie that's hilarious, but the villagers constantly talk about the "greater good". We here need to focus on that.
Greed will be the downfall of Man.
Reviews, .........bought and paid for !
I agree with you on the promo reviews but let's take it a step further... 99% of the reviews are worthless. Maybe that's a little high but there are so many reasons that I don't rely on reviews:
But the vast majority of reviews are written with the best of intentions and honestly but if it's your first cycle can you really evaluate the quality of the product or if you are running 4 different compounds can you really say it was the Winny that did the trick instead of the Tren or maybe the Mast you were running with it. Oh and that GH you started 2 weeks ago must have some super top secret formula because you lost 2 inches on your waist when ever bit of research says it takes months to see noticeable results but you're certain it was the GH so you write a review.
I think Eroids still has the best system. Not perfect. It's up to the members to weed through the BS and figure it out for themselves. Some will say blood tests should back up a review but those can be faked and/or manipulated as well.
Its the SAME OLD people in on every FREE PROMO
It's so obvious it's not even funny anymore. The best are the guys that are obvious gym resellers getting 20 bottle orders every other week then hop in on that free bottle of prop that they were magically wanting to try out. They have no shame
Great point! I believe I've seen a promo where it said,"if you reviewed, good or bad, your in" BUT that isn't the norm by any means!