posted Tue, 01/01/2013 - 20:05
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signs of low estrogens
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How would one know if they were taking to much ai?
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How would one know if they were taking to much ai?
Thats the problem with Aromasin. 12.5mg is wayy too much unless you are on a gram of test. 6mg eod had my joints dry as letro did while on 700mg test!
Thats why I recommend Arimidex. Because you can take it once a week, 2x a week, 3x etc you can control it better.
Don't believe the crap people say aromasin is better than adex because it's not true. For some people maybe, but not everyone.
YES Aromasin does not have estrogen rebound, but if you dose adex properly it will not either. Aromasin is scientifically proven to permanently deactivte the Aromatase Enzyme for the life of the Enzyme, HOWEVER your body will make new aromatase enzymes. So that is not a permanent thing. If aromatase enzymes were shutdown permanently then people would have little to no estrogen while off cycle for their whole life.
My point is adex is better for estrogen control because you can dose it easier and adex doesn't come with some of the androgenic side effects that aromasin does.
cdaddy7Now at this very moment I can attest to low estro bc I was using too much test on my ratio to 1 test and should have dropped it lower or adjusted my Aromasin but it happen so fast i had a gyno flare....so i had to run the Letro protocol I advise for on cycle flares.....brothers I hurt in my joints and muscles....I mean down to the bone.....I got full suppression of the gyno and lost my libido but I'm tapering down....my fuckn my i hurt....so yes to achy breaks joints.....dry ass skin....my palms feel like sand paper....my libido is barely around and my wood could puncture concrete but no real desire.....moral of the story fellas take the precautions necessary....I been doing this for a long minute and u see i am not exempt from mishap and I'm very well seasoned vet....I am so glad I listened to my body and ran it by my homie GS and got it right....this kinda stuff is always expected but even more so when experimenting with a new compound....now I can confirm that 1 test binds hard to androgen receptor like Tren leaving free test convert party LOL....by the way I started at 400mg of test but now on a TRT dose of 200....never underestimate ur gear, cycle or body....always have ancillaries on deck for such an emergency.....run that bloodwork too damnit lol
AnonBe careful of this. I fell in to this trap of confusing low estro with high, and its easy to do, because some symptoms overlap. If you think you have an estro issue you really need to get a blood test.
I guessed and stopped taking all my AI because I thought I had gotten too low, so I went 2 weeks without any. I got my blood tested and I was way high ! Luckily it was easy to correct and Im back down now, but this is one area you dont want to guess at, because it can snow ball on you.
When I started ai this cycle, I was taking adex at .25mg e3d, within 2 weeks my skin got really dry, and my elbows hurt so bad, I had to stop doing barbell curls. Changed my dosing to .25mg e4d, and things got better within another 2 weeks. Those were the first 2 real world signs for me, different signs for different people.
Irritible
headache
constipation
joints will ache
symptoms are, sore aching joints low libdo sometimes dry lips.
cdaddy7Signs and symptoms of Low Estrogen in Males
1) Joint pain and crackiness
2) Depression bc estrogen helps increase serotonin in the brain
3) Mania in some cases
4) Lethargy and fatigue
5) Lack of libido - but powerful erections in the case of sufficient DHT levels.
6) Heart rhythm changes - fluttering sensation due to lower blood pressure.
7) Skin changes--hyperpigmentation or pale-looking skin—excessive dry skin
8) Hair follicle inflammation - excessive hair growth.
9) Anxiety, obsessive, impulsive, irritable
10) Blunted emotion.
11) Lack of trust for others and jealousy
Now keep in mind that you may have one or two of these and maybe none at all for the moment, BUT this DOES NOT mean that there isn’t something going on…That’s what make bloodwork more of a necessity rather than an option in my book
I do apreciate this. I acutally realized I was using too much aromasin! Its very hard for me to get bloods and I usually go by bloat. karma for you
mr127superdeeall correct right here bro insomnia can also be a by product prob from the anxiety cdaddy listed i have found that low estro can also spike bad body odor and constipation might just be me but read over these symptoms but even more important get some fuckin blood work lol good luck brother
Damn to be honest I'm feeling like that lately. Only taking 12.5 mg aromasin every couple days too. I'm gonna take my BP daily for the next week and maybe cut down my dose to 6.25 mg EOD on the aromasin. I react extremely well to aromasin so that's probably it my body only needs a small amount I'm guessing. I'm not really getting all of those but I get the lack of libido (sometimes) but strong erections. And now and then joints will crackle, also had low BP when I got bloods drawn the other day but it was first thing in the morning and I hadn't drank any water or anything yet. Thanks for the info bro
Wow lack of trust ? How on earth did studies quantify this??
mr127superdeedude if you ever had low estro while being in a relationship youd understand this thing can actually kill the ability to love all together i mean emotionally not physically its fucked up...
cdaddy7Correct bc the chemicals that estrogen effect in the brain def control ur emotions....just like too much testosterone can cause aggression and excitability
AnonI have felt that emotional swing you mentioned. Yes its true and so hard to explain to your spouse that you just dont feel any love any more, but fucked up estro will do that.