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Week 11 of 16. Week 3 of Tren. Whewww. Tren is intense. 206lbs in the AM.

Cycle and updates: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/experimental-cycle-test-eprop-eq-deca-t...

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alayna's picture

sorry to hear you are having probs but i have to tell ya yr body is perfect! really beautiful! +1

tranchms's picture

Hey thanks!!!! I really appreciate it Biggrin

OmNom's picture

Hey man if you don't have any caber or prami on hand here are some thing you can do to help while you wait for some

  • Vit B6
  • No alcohol especially hoppy beers.. I doubt you were drinking any on this cycle lol
  • Low dosed t3 of 25mcg helps with prolactin elevation and other sides from 19nors.. Don't raise the dose any higher than that
tranchms's picture

Thanks man! I appreciate your feedback. Today I actually started to feel better again. I think my sleep was terrible, and it was catching up to me. My libido is still low, but my energy and well being seem to have improved.

I started some supps with B6's. I actually don't really drink at all when I'm on a cycle. It makes me feel terrible. Bloated. And my workouts are shit. At most I'll have a glass or two of wine once or twice a week. But that's even rare. I do miss my IPA's tho!!!!

I have Caber. And I think I'll start that at a dose of .25 2x a week. Is that right? I have enough for 8 weeks... hopefully that'll be sufficient??? How long should I run caber? That won't last me through my PCT. Need to buy more... any sources you'd recommend?

Thanks again.

OmNom's picture

If you don't have t3 on hand don't even worry about it just get the caber or prami

OmNom's picture

Tren usually takes a week or two to kick in I'd imagine prolactin build up from 2 19nors is dropping your libido and causing your lethargy.. I'm with rusty it's about time you got blood tests.. This all just seems like to much imo

tranchms's picture

Sounds like that's the case. I'll get my bloods done. Need to incorporate caber. I'll also discontinue Deca on week 12, and drop the Tren to 75 or 50.

tranchms's picture

Nah bra. Why? You seem surprised.

OmNom's picture

Bro deca and tren raise prolactin levels that's why people don't use the two in the same cycle.. prolactin suppresses thyroid.. can cause lactation.. it makes me cranky.. even broke dick.. If you can keep the prolactin in check that's great but your shut down must be harsh
Deca can linger in your system for 12-18 months after use.. Prlly one of the worst steroids for prolonged shut down that I've tried.. I recommend NPP for this reason.

tranchms's picture

lol true. I have lots of Letro! Just in case!

It's weird, I seem to be immune to gyno. Not to jinx myself, but my last cycle I ran Test E 400/ P100 EOD with no AI and no gyno. My nips are wicked small. They always itch when I start and end a cycle, but they have never swollen in the slightest.

When it comes to prolactin issues, well we'll see how I react. Definitely getting my bloods checked out THIS WEEK. I feel fine though. Nothing catastrophic. I know it's a heavy cycle, and my libido and energy crashed a bit suddenly, but overall I'm tip top. Definitely will report back my lab results.

alloneword's picture

Al the letro in the world won't do anything for prolactin related issues. Good luck with the bloods Holmes. Post em up and you'll get squared away.

OmNom's picture

Correct.. Letro only helps with estro.. estro acts as rocket fuel for prolactin side effect.. But to fix a issue you'll want caber/prami on hand with your letro..

Prolactin and estro are both suppressive to your natty test.. Let's say you come off and use letro or aromasin in PCT.. Well you won't receive any prolactin side effects with low estrogen.. But all of the sudden when you finish PCT you feel like shit an have no idea why.. a few weeks later you begin to form lumps or lactate.. That's because your testosterone never recovered fully with prolactin suppressing it.. What did happen is estrogen elevated because your testosterone was low.. I've seen this happen to a lot of guys.. delayed gyno after PCT and it almost always involved a steroid that effected prolactin

OmNom's picture

Also if you're blast cruise you won't be as likely to get this post PCT gyno.. Since you're just going back to TRT levels.. but imo PCT with tren or deca should ALWAYS include prami or caber

tranchms's picture

You have any ideas? Are you familiar with these symptoms? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a vegetable, and I'm still active as fuck, I'm just not as internally energetic as I recall myself being a few weeks back. Like, my "mood" is more or less "depressed", or less elastic as I remember it being until a few weeks ago. I'm still very active tho. If that makes sense.