Here's the thing, how and why is it so much cheaper then pharma?

Buying in bulk and bypassing any type of rules set by The China Food and Drug Administration (CFDA) (国家食品药品监督管理总局) (Black Market)

This can lead to issues with consistent dosing, impurities, elevated Endotoxins, etc

There are many BioPharms in China manufacturing Recombinant Proteins:

http://www.nuptec.com/products_show.asp?pro_id=17

http://www.bitlifesciences.com/wcv2013/cn/exhibitionintroduce.asp

https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_180.jpg

http://akesobio.com/eng/company.asp?bid=1&s=on

It sometimes makes me wonder if it's not real growth and it's something that mimics it.

That used to be the theory....which could be true.....but...more often it was just issues with the growth hormone itself.....other Isoforms, high impurities (related substance/proteins) etc., .....not actually a combination of peptides that "mimic"

This was the issue with the popular R!PTR@P!N$. Lots of sides and bloating. Testing I've seen on these were not "Pharma Quality". But, they were a hot seller.....

http://brotherhoodofpain.com/pharmacomstore/24616-pharmacom-hgh-simec-te...
(PharmaCom has some old GH test results on his SI Thread that explain it better but I'd have to put some effort to find it)

Legit Pharma HGH is probably the safest route for a consistent product (especially when using long term)

There are sources here offering popular "Generic" Xhinese Brands that tested well

Plenty of information here on HGH products, trusted Legit HGH Sources

IF you can get good generics, you can get some pretty decent results, i think lol, ive never found any decent generics but the last year theyve been around. The biggest differnce if you actually find real 191aa generics vs pharm grade is side effects. All the shitty side effects people speak of come from impurities that the generic makers just dont have the technology to remove, and those toxins cause the water retention, the CTS, the joint pain, etc etc.I used to run generics, at the time they were the best we could get, 10ius of that stuff for months did almost nothing, spend 7 months runnning various generics, made the switch to pharm grade an the first month i shit you not i lost 8lbs of fat, and my diet was not the greatest at that time it was right around christmas and new years.

Pharm grades getting more affordable, I can get it for 3 bucks and iu for one particular brand, pretty much the same price as these generics, for the other top brands i can get them somewhere around 4 bucks an iu. The results are absolutely night and day, uncomparable.

Youre right about wondering how the generics are so much cheaper, my prices for pharm grade are far lower then what most can get, most are paying 5-6ish, while generics are going for a little under a dollar per iu. There are many fakes out there that use stuff to mimic real gh, they use stuff to make you feel tired, like gh can do, retain water, again what gh can do to some people, and theyll use ghrps etc to get some gh release going so you think your on real hgh.

I can speak for one lab why their able to produce pharm grade quality gh, for a little over 2 bucks per iu, they rent the facility they make it in, so they didnt need the 10s of millions needed to start up a facility, nor do they need to pay for the liscenses, fda approval etc etc, that shits expensive.

I've only used pharmacy and it was to speed tendon healing. The results have been amazing for me in that regard and I've enjoyed the pleasant side effect enhanced recovery and fat loss during my current bulk cycle. I got it for 4-5 per iu. I figure you only get onenough shot with the body you have so why rold the dice?

There is like a million posts with the same subject. Take a look in the hgh forums. You can find there everything you need to know about hgh

One word. Pharma......