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+ 2 Ok so pre cycle and mid cycle blood work done, now I know what's going on!!!!

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Ok so I started my cycle Jan 4th, test e 300mg/2wk, around middle of week 3 I noticed real nice strength increase in all my lifts especially compound lifts. I had planned taking aromasin around end of week 3. We'll end of week 3 came and I felt great no negative sides at all, and good gains, so I waited. By end of week 4 I kinda expected to really be impressed with my gains and strength and libido and everything else. But for some reason it seemed like everything had come to a stand still. Strength increases were stabil, Lobido was average, still had plenty of energy and was having great workouts and feeling very strong pumps, but no longer making gains like during week 3. I had a feeling something was up, but waited until after I got my mid cycle bloods done to know for sure. We'll I got my bloods today and it is obvious what the problem is. My pre cycle blood show that my estrogen levels were average, but my test levels were VERY LOW even for a 48 yr old male, FSH 6.8 and LH 5.5, estradiol was 32 and test was 284, we'll now after getting my mid cycle bloods I know now that even though I don't feel any sides at the end of week 3 I need to start a low dose of my AI , because my mid cycle bloods show my FSH <0.7 and LH <0.2 estradiol 91 and test is 3370. So if I had started taking AI at end of week 3 instead of waiting to feel side effects I would have timed it perfectly, we'll live and learn, that's what blood work is for, and now I know how my body reacts. I am going to start a dose of AI today and see how I feel by the end of next week, I would expect to notice a big difference? I will post bloods to this in an edit later today can't right now. What approach with my AI would be suggested to kick start estrogen levels back where they need to be? Would a 12.5 mg ED of aromasin do it? Or should I take 6.5 ED and increase if I don't see an improvement? Suggestion are appreciated?

EDIT: BLOOD WORK IS POSTED PLEASE CHECK IT OUT AND COMMENT....

https://www.eroids.com/pics/pre-and-mid-cycle-blood-work

cry_havoc's picture

Start low and work your way up. Thank you for sharing your labs and experience with us. I think it is awesome that you are doing it right!

+2 for setting a good example to new members!

NoPnNoGn's picture

linked my blood work, what do you think?

NoPnNoGn's picture

Yeah man thanks for that. Hell I never would have been brave enough to try this on my own, I feel like the knowledge I am taking from this site and it's members in invaluable , least I can do is give back what little I have to offer.

jimmie's picture

I'd think the best bet would be to start at 6.25 mg / day and test again after 2 weeks and readjust if necessary. 91 really isn't that high, you don't want to crash estro. Ideal is 20-30 for a "normal" male. I think for someone on cycle that range can go 20-50. Half life of exemestane is only 24 hours so the everyday administration would be best.

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MegaT883's picture

Half life is 9 hrs in males.

jimmie's picture

+1 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14671195

You are correct. Thank you. I don't remember where I found that 24 hours, must have been a study done with women. So I suppose if you are able to break a tab into 3.125 mg it should be taken twice a day....

Or maybe just easier to stick with once a day. Then you can get into the broscience of timing. Is the aromatase enzyme most active in the morning when natural levels are highest...which is invalid during shutdown......

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NoPnNoGn's picture

Good info in link thanks