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itszoot89well at 2.7 iu than a bump to 5.1IU a week before testing to ensure numbers come out higher .
a IGF-1 of 179 is not even touching a 2IU rating
I believe I got a bad/under dosed batch.
Im not saying its bunk because i got a bump, im just saying numbers dont lie
You don’t have to say it’s bunk, but it’s definitely under dosed
Have you tested other brands of gh before?
itszoot89This is my first go into GH. I made a forum post on it, and I seriously wish I was hearing better news , like user error or something. I’ve searched every post regarding igf-1 testing and found nothing that compares to mine. Everyone is saying the same thing on my post and idk what to think because something is working just not at the level it should be
Dude, more and more people have been testing igf-1 in the last couple of years. The numbers are all over the place on the same batches from multiple sources. Everybody reacts differently. High liver values can affect an igf-1 score. Most people will say a 100 igf-1 value per iu of gh. That is true for some people. Some people get more. I hit a 570 igf-1 score on 5iu's from a different supplier. I haven't tried keys new gh. I tried some probably 8 years ago or so. I never did an igf-1 test. There was a guy on another suppliers thread running 9iu's a day. He stated he was in the best shape of his life and everyone he knew was noticing the difference. He did an igf-1 test and it came back at 90ng/ml. That was low! But it is what it is. There's some guy that does videos on gh that members talk about. I think his name is Steve. That guy's igf-1 barely elevates past a normal range on high doses of gh. You could try gh from a different supplier and see how you test.
I appreciated this comment a lot, im in a similar boat as this guy (different source), new to gh myself, and i been scratching my head as well. I forgot to remind myself that everyone reacts to differently to things.
Now if you tested high on one source or batch and low on the next source or batch, that would be reason for concern.
itszoot89Keytech is going to take care of me, I’ll be getting more HgH from him soon and I’ll retesting
That's cool. I saw someone in your post mention that reta may affect igf-1 levels. A quick search shows that it is possible.
Yeah. On X a wide range of people say igf-1 is an unreliable indicator whether your GH is good as there are so many variables. They also said Reta can mess with igf-1 levels. All I know is I’ve been using keys GH 5iu for the last 6+ weeks and I have all the sides and desired results so far.
I would say it's based on the individual. If you constantly get good numbers and get a low number with all things being the same, that is probably an issue.
itszoot89Yeah I looked that up , a deeper search shows there’s not enough data to say it’s 100% the Reta. Plus the research is at very high levels of Reta I’m at a humble 2mg. All my liver markers and glucose are optimal and in range
I saw that about not enough data too and something was said it was because it's still in the trial phase. There were some posts in a reddit forum of people getting lower igf-1 scores from reta. I think 1 guy was on 3mg of reta. You could try dropping the reta for a week or so and retest the same batch. That would be more data. Lol.
itszoot89Lmao I should. I was actually supposed to start my bulk and going to cut off my reta. It’s just the numbers don’t make sense for 5.1IU I got a bump like I was taking 1.8IU
I’m curious what the other batch will put me at
An important aspect we haven't discussed yet: how much water do you use per vial? how many insulin syringe notches do you use each time?
itszoot89Just to clear this up — Nolvadex had zero effect. I only started it after the blood draw, so it wasn’t even in play. And even if it was, Nolva doesn’t tank IGF. Retatrutide isn’t the culprit either. Yeah, there are rare mentions of GLP-1s nudging IGF, but nothing that explains why 5.1iu looks like it didn’t even hit 2iu. My glucose, liver, and other markers all came back clean.
For dosing: vials are being advertised as overdosed at 50–51iu. I used 2mL bac water per vial with U100 pins, which makes every 0.1mL (10 mark) about 2.55iu. I ran that once daily (2.55iu) from July 29–Aug 13 (16 days), then bumped it to twice daily (5.1iu) for the week leading into bloods. Bloods were pulled correctly — AM pin, fasted, and tested three hours later. So between proper reconstitution, consistent pinning, and correct timing, the numbers still don’t line up. At the end of the day, bloodwork doesn’t lie.
Here’s the theory that actually makes sense: if I was accidentally given the 13-14iu vials that you sell as overdosed from 10IU instead of the 50–51iu ones, then with 2mL bac water each 0.1mL would only equal ~0.65iu. That means my “2.55iu” daily dose would have actually been ~0.65iu, and when I doubled it to “5.1iu” it was really just ~1.3iu per day. That lines up almost perfectly with my bloodwork, which reflected closer to 1–2iu, not 5.
@keytech maybe worth double-checking packaging to rule out a mix-up.
Don't let the numbers stress you out. Have you been seeing any results? I've read about reta burning visceral fat. It has me intrigued.
itszoot89So I have seen results from Reta it’s incredible. I’ve used sema and Tirzepatide but those suppresses my hunger too much, reta allows me to eat but not overdo it and kills cravings for sweets.
The HgH I noticed wild dreams so detailed and very interesting. My gf said I started snoring hard once I took it and I’m finally able to get a good nights rest, so I know something is happening !
Does it kill cravings for fruit? The woman and I have been downing 10 pounds of fresh peaches a week for the last 3 weeks. I wouldn't want to fuck up peach season. Lol
Lost 40lbs on Reta in 5 month. It’s awesome
That is awesome. I have maybe 10 or 15 stubborn pounds I'd like to get rid of.
It’s a miracle drug. Not kidding. I know several people that have seen incredible results.
itszoot89Tested IGF-1 on August 20th- not 26th***
When will cyp 250 be back instock? Ty
How much BW do you use to reconstitute the Goldtrope 50IU vial hgh?
Start with…How much do you plan on using per injection? Then do the math on how much water you need to mix. It’s extremely easy to figure out. Tons of apps out there
As much or as little as you want. Look up a peptide calculator and play around with it.
By the end of next month we will have in stock, masteron, masten200 and primo are in progress
Ranger3252Got to explain to the old lady where 2 grand magically disappeared lol.
rhino82Same lol