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Key appreciate your opinion. Always a good discussion with this subject.
Brother, I think you misunderstood what I said. I never claimed the powder in your two photos was the same, and I definitely didn’t dismiss your experience. What I pointed out is simply that color isn’t a reliable standalone indicator of purity, BECAUSE:
• Carrier oils change the color
• BB/BA ratios change the color
• Heat exposure and oxidation change the color
• Filtration method changes the color
• Even time sitting in a vial changes the color
You correctly said it in your post:
All of this is chemistry, not opinion.
And yes … multiple refinement steps generally lead to a lighter raw, but once it’s brewed, the final color still depends heavily on the process, not just the purity number.
The only reliable way to verify purity is HPLC, not eyeballing shade variations. If we judged purity by color alone, half the industry would be wrong every day, because there are plenty of very pure batches that are darker simply due to oxidation handling.
So the point wasn’t “your Tren is wrong” … it was that the statement “94% purity = more side effects” is not supported by pharmacology or real-world user data.
Side effects are driven far more by dose, neurosteroid sensitivity, androgen/PR interaction, and systemic response, not a 4% purity swing.
I respect your 25 years in the game … but I’m just discussing the chemistry and user physiology, not trying to discount your experience.
If you still disagree, that’s cool … we can debate the science, not each other.
Probably one of the best breakdowns i have ever heard on tren. Over the years the vets have voiced similar things to me. I am in the midst of no longer a rookie, but getting to be a vet. A lot of the young guys ask me questions often and i don't want to see people mess themselves up. It is scary the protocols these very young men tell me they are following.
Looks like muffin mix. Yum
Do you know the muffin man?
The Muffin Man?
Buff-in mix you say?!
"this muffin mix made me wanna fuck other men for some reason"
Hahahahahahaha buffin mix hahahahahaha that's funny as fuck
I have heard this and had many discussions about it. I guess almost like an autumn leaf like an almost orange like color is what i like to see. I have ran all shades and have had gppd stuff that was yellow. There are a lot of other variables to consider as well. I have not ran it and wont until next spring summer.
Objectively the more pale yellow it is, the better the brew was. Not really any variables outside of heat, quality of raws, and oils/solvents. Tren doesn’t even need much heat to go in solution, so there’s really no excuse for that autumn leaf orange/red color. Just lazy brewers who have a set temp they make all formulas at.
This one always strikes up a conversation w the gym rats. As someone else mentioned the oil itself plays a factor. Maybe a lab has a ton of tren orders and they decide to stretch what they got.... i think about stuff like that often. I have had really good stuff in all shades. Back when they had the lube satchets that was some of the best id ever ran.
It’s still tren, so it’s still gonna be strong. But if it’s darker, you have lost some to oxidation due, most likely, to excessive heat. We aren’t allowed to go in to brewing specifics on eroids, but labs shouldn’t really be using heat to get it in solution. Some just go “well the melting point is X, so I’m going to heat it to X” when it can be done at half the MP with just a little more time.
exactly bro
Was the pic supposed to be oil or a bag of powder?
No officer it’s not coke it’s tren honest!
"JUST SOMETHING I FOUND FLOATING AROUND THE OCEAN"
Old boy has been blowing those boats into oblivion... prob a few of those floating around right now. Imagine a shark eating it.
Jason Statham is probably already writing the script. Trenadon 2 Return Of The Jacked Horny Shark
In all seriousness a lion, gorilla, bear, shark, or python on a mean stack with tren would be a terrifying encounter. I got a friend in Alaska that tells me once a polar bear has your scent they will stalk you... imagine that thing on 500mg of tren
Jacked horny sort of gay/straight shark.
rhino82Totally impressed with the 25mg Var from here. I’ve been taking 25mg at 6am and another 25mg at 6pm right before I hit the gym and this stuff hits. The way it feels while lifting has been outstanding and the mind to muscle connection is fire. 50mg a day is almost to much lol
50mg/day WAS too much for me
rhino82Did you back it off to 25?
Yep exactly. Just started halving the 25 tabs. 12.5 2x a day. Worked perfectly. I think I'm a high responder to gear. 200/wk cyp puts me at almost 2k test. I'm not sure if that transposes to any gear but maybe that's why.
I just got a bunch of tbol and looking fwd to giving that a go.
rhino82I think you’re gonna really enjoy t-bol I felt awesome on it.
Hell yea. Were there any pros/cons compared to var? Sorry I'm outta thumbs. I'll come back later when I respawn and thumb ur butt
rhino82I feel mentally elevated on Tbol I don’t get that at all on Var. it’s just less potent building tissue but hey, the Germans won a shit ton of gold medals with it
Ranger3252I know a lot of people are not fans of Tbol, but I do put it right up there with var. I’ve just finished four weeks of his tbol and it was amazing. I have a bunch of his var on hand as well.
rhino82Now that you got me thinking about Tbol I’m gonna order some for a future cycle. The absolute most mentally uplifting cycle I’ve ever done was just a simple 800 mg Test with 50mg a day Tbol. I believe Tbol really has some uplifting mental properties.
rhino82I’m a big fan of t-bol as well. I love how I feel in it.