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Mondays....
What regimen do you guys do for TRT with Sust?
Just got my first order from Unc, and excited to begin.
Running Cyp at 100mg every 3 1/2 days.
Newbie here clearly.
Sust is a failure for trt. 100 e3d isnt trt. Wheres your dr? Blood tests?
Using TRTNation. I had low low T at 239 total and I’ve been on for almost 4 months and feel amazing.
Heard Sust was the way to go everywhere online.
Open to a better regimen though, want to stay at TRT dosages though.
No desire to get into cycle range.
He saying it’s a failure because of the pinning frequency. However if you don’t mind ED or EOD pinning then you’re fine running sustanon for TRT. Gotta pin to the fastest ester and sus has prop in it. You want to keep blood levels stable. I personally like to do prop ED. Some on here will say they can get by with EOD. But I don’t mind an extra pin for extra stability.
The mix of esters in sus might make dialing it more difficult than test E or C.
Gotcha, makes sense to me.
So at 250mg of Sust a week, pinning EoD.
I’d do .25ml right?
No that’s too much IMO. You don’t wanna be redlining the engine during TRT. It’s supposed to be something maintainable for life. Real TRT is gonna be a dose that gets you in healthy ranges on all bio markers. I hate seeing people saying they need an AI on TRT and then try justifying it with some bs like “not everyone converts to estrogen at the same rate”…that’s true everyone converts differently but does NOT mean you should run an AI. They want to be 1000+ total test but their body doesn’t support that based on the E2 levels. Find a level in the ranges your body can support with no other drugs needed to make it work and that’s your TRT dose. My doc started me at 200mg (because many docs dont know what they’re doing) and I titrated down myself to about 140mg a week. That’s my body’s happy spot where test is has high as it can be without anything else getting out of whack. Lipids, CMP, E2, blood pressure, etc.
Trt should be simple. I pin subq 75mg a week and get 850 on blood tests. So your dosing is a cycle. Pinning like that imo is nutty.
you pin weekly or split it up? I did find slower release in subq and more stable levels, possibly higher estrogen conversion but I don't aromatise much myself
Would never thought to be able to get 850ng of a low one a week dose, good work @Jockstrap.
Always open for less pinning
He's been saying that for years now.
I'd like to see more trt subq vs trt IM blood comparisons.
Reddit was filled with bots telling me THE ONLY PROTOCOL IS DAILY SUBQ INJECT, at least I thought it was bots after the appalling PED information I deleted account and erased everything,
The oil is designed for the muscle, I’m pretty sure risk of infection is ten fold subq no matter how clean and efficient one is.
I subq Ment @DeeMan and I cannot lie.. it’s a better experience than IM’ing it…
The risk is more on high chance of sterile abscess. I tried to push it to see how much I could do as a test on myself. tried ed, eod, weekly, even tried running a low dose cycle on subq. I think 1/2ml is pushing it. I would keep the overall volume under .4ml, preferably .2.
Did .5 mill once and took damn near a month to go away so less I agree.
Agree.
Max 0.2-0.25ml EOD subQ
I can’t do subq at all. Knots me up regardless of the oil/ester.
This! I have used Test E or Test C for my own TRT for over a year now. I do .20-.25mL SubQ on Mon, Wed, Fri. Checked my levels a couple times and it keeps me between 650-900-ish depending. Have gotten some occasional lumps but other than some soreness, nothing too crazy, goes away with time. Just my own 2 cents.
Yeah I've tried subq 2 times or so. First time it left a lump that took damn near a month to go away and that was with very little oil injected. I guess it can be ok but not for me. And I can see why you would subq trest. Being an acetate it will last a little longer in system.
Man I'm not too familiar with reddit but I hear alot of crazy things lol
Once a week and i feel good all week long even if i miss pin day. With a slow steady release it would seem less e2 conversion? Versus getting a spike in free test like adding the various orals. That would be a good one to research!
That’s what I’d assume too. Slow and steady = less conversion. But I’d call it a very safe assumption based on science.
Hardest part is it works for me with very lil conversion but another person it might be lower as more is converted to e2. Very similar to folks on cycle and ai needs.
How often do you guys go out drinking and just get shitfaced and completely skip macros? Just curious, not like I would ever do something as stupid as go out and do a bunch of drugs and alcohol while BNC not me no sir...
Never. But plenty gym bros do and look just fine. Not sure what they look like internally though. Alcohol absolutely wrecks your HRV and restorative properties for sleep, so you won’t be doing much growing in your sleep on the night you get shit faced. Once won’t be noticeable, but do it often and you’re wasting the point of all that extra recovery ability from the gear.
I've partied twice since running gear, once on a test 500 cycle and once now cruising at 250 (i know). It legitimately blows my mind all the vids you see of like...Rich Piana slamming shitty Pabst.
Well not to make light of his situation….but look where he is now. It’s a damn miracle Larry Wheels is still alive with what he said he used to do regarding partying/recreational drug. We already know he was blasting gear lol so that’s a given. Ballsy gamble to go “hmm I wonder if I have the genetics to do all this and not die”…slow acting Russian roulette
Yeah I suppose Rich Piana was a bad example lol.
@UncleYoked any chance a 250/200 test deca blend could be brewed upp
We had one before, wasn't a big mover but next time we make some deca and test, I'll go ahead and get a blend put together. Maybe like 50 vials for the shelf.
I'd order it immediately!!! @UncleYoked, I'll pay extra for some just for me hahahahahaha