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@Jockstrap whats the lowest you have run tren A with good enough results
@wanted the basic cutstack pinned every day is strong. I prefer test lower so even as simple as my trt dose 75mg cyp and 50mg ed did well with less hassles. The strength of tren is suprising. One error i made first time was thinking its gonna hit hard and fast as test prop. But for me bout the 10th day the lifts start moving up. So i started at 50....didnt 'feel' it so 75...then 100 and holy crap! Not good! Breathless going up starirs. Sweating like rain forest, miserable. My max thats tolerable is 25prop 50mast 75tren a. Short esters make is easy to quick change. You can drop tren to 50 or if still too hot 75eod. Ive run tren with test being higher before but just gotta mind your e2 which raises prolactin.
Edit...theres no weekly for prop or ace. Dead n gone in 48hrs...
I know you didn't ask me but I ran it for 4 weeks at the end of a primo run started at 140mg/week for 2 weeks and then 210mg/week for 2 weeks and it was phenomenal. If I run it again I won't go past this.
1000% Agree , with Tren I love anywhere between 100-200mg Max a week, as that dose for me really limited the sides. When I ran it at 300mg the trensomnia was too much. I know we’re all different but for me that 100-150mg a week is honestly the sweet spot with a max of 200mg a week.
Enth or ace ?
Ace
I’ve flirted with the idea of doing ace last 4 weeks of a cycle .3 ED maybe take Sunday off but I can’t get over the constant pinning. What sites do you inject ?
I was able to pin small amounts (less than .7ml) subq no problem and still got all the effects. Ass fat. Don't do the stomach if you do this.
Glutes ventro glutes and delts in a round the world rotation.
I'm just over here takting notes.
Trust in the fact that tren has that mystique but theres items that are similar in action with lots less grief.
Dhb is a visual chem that you can see nice solid changes to physique weekly. Very lil sides if run right.
Adding mass 600test 350npp 300mast. Lil more complex but pumps are awesome, strength and gains.
That's my next cycle. 500Dec, 600test, and I'll be running npp for the first time then at the end I'll run 4 weeks of ace. I love mast E and primo.
As far as npp goes what's ideal for starting
I'm thinking about this being my next cycle except a little higher primo instead of mast. Even though I do love mast.
Interesting twist. A buddy went with winny instead of mast. Got the dry cutting effects with food on point and npp kept joints happy.
I keep wondering about dhb primo. I liked eq dhb a lot but primo also has that fame to it. Lol
Yea I really like primo. I got great results from it. Im hoping to not have to run an AI while running the test/npp as an added bonus.
You can learn so much from a lot of these dudes. Take notes and read. A lot of great info on here. A lot of people willing to help and great community
I’d suggest what jockstrap stated
6 weeks but no more than 8 weeks on Ace
75mg EOD and sides shouldn’t be too overly bad.
If you can handle it then you could do 50mg-75 ED. But personally 6 weeks is plenty.
For the most part it’s about pinning frequency preference. Ace is always recommended to start with until you know how sides are for you and can dial in your dose. That way if you need to back off or anything it’s half-life is much more forgiving. But if you have it all good on your dose then you could switch to E for less pins. I know there are a couple minor differences when you look at the scientific level of it, but both are good.
The whole Tren A should be used before Tren E is completely subjective and imo terrible advice. The argument of it gets out of the system faster if sides come on disregards the fact that ace hits like a ton of bricks compared to enanthate slowly saturating over a longer period of time. I’ve used both and can tolerate but I know ppl that can’t make it 2 weeks on ace because of the instant hit. It’s like comparing beer to whiskey.
You ever run enth and hit week 8 with buildup fully ramped, started getting edgy and no sleep? Ya, 2 full weeks after stopping its still pouncing on you.
Everyone knows the potential sides of both, use at your own risk. Everyone has their own experience, but to say it’s an objective protocol to use Ace before Enanthate isn’t a fact, it’s an opinion. I also believe a lot of ppl who say it, haven’t ever used either, they just mimic something others are saying. My personal experience is E being way more tolerable on the onset as opposed to A hitting like a ton of bricks.
Haven’t slept in weeks brother
You should seek medical treatment. 72 hours is considered severe sleep deprivation and can lead to major health issues, the longest ever recorded was 11 days in 1964. You probably know this, but it’s also a form of torture because of the cognitive impairment it causes.
Yeah im on my 2nd 12wk cycle and started out on A. So that's what I was wondering bout the difference with A and E. Im still adjusting to tren A I like it. I like the feel. But not sure I'd im gunna keep using it. Any suggestions on good bulking stacks
Not something with tren in it.
A whole lotta primo and test. Or whole lot of test and deca. Or whole lot of test with eq.
Adrol or dbol. Or 4 weeks one then 4 weeks the other. With 2 week breaks
Appreciate it.
Post this in the forums and you’ll get plenty of advice
Has anybody tried the PT 141 or mt2.?
Any coupon codes anyone? Lol
Get on your knees and I’ll tell you