posted Fri, 07/03/2015 - 09:19
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This is the method I use when injecting. Press plunger to inject for 5 seconds, stop for 10 seconds, repeat this 5 sec/10 sec method for remaining compound. When finished remove needle & massage injection site for at least 30 seconds. This is a good video on proper injection.
https://youtu.be/ibBEI7SDOOw
There are a dozen variables when it come to PIP bro and most have nothing to do with the gear... some ppl are just prone to PIP, there is piinning technique, rate of plunging, untrained pin sites, rate of rotation etc...
This is true, I usually always pretty much have pip from short esters. I know that I pin and rotate correctly so I must just be prone too it. Never get it from long esters and ive used many different domestic/international sources. Love your gear brother, keep up the good work. We all appreciate the quality.
And btw a karma band would really suck, Ive been using Eroids for over 4 years now but just now really got around to making an account.. Never saw the need of it before hand.
Thanks
HK1911Sorry bro but gear dose have a lot to do with it .. I my self dont get pip or test flue. Unless it's a bad brew My only bad side is tren breaks me out but thier has been couple SRC I've tried and gave me pip not just prop iv also gotten it with test e cyp deca and high mg oil. So the brewer dose have a lot to do with it to sorry . I got your gear. And running you mp test e and tren a And I'm happy with your brewing or the batch I got from you
Reread what I wrote, I did not say it has nothing to do with the gear, I said there are other factors that can contribute to PIP, Some ppl will get PIP regardless (especially with prop) Some sites are more sensitive than others for some ppl, For me personally I cannot do quads at all that site is just pure misery for me,,, some will bury the pin too deep, others don'[t use proper rotation... I always bring this up cuz ppl will instantly go to the gear which is bullshit at least half the time... so to say that bad brew is THE cause of PIP it is to you that I say sorry bro
I have less PIP with short est's by pushing the plunger very slowly over about 2-3 minutes of time. I know having a needle in your (insert body part) can be a little offsetting but it really helps for me. Give that a try
will do! I use a 25 gauge so it already goes in pretty damn slow lol
2 to 3 that's long enough to write a novel!!!! I pin 3cc in 2 minutes, that's just me brother it's like a cake walk. Do what you do if it works....that's all that counts.
haha I'm sure I could find better ways to pin but I'm stubborn and the type of person "If it aint broke dont fix it"
interesting. i myself have ran plenty of raws prop. its my favorite kind of test.....i cant say ive ever gotten even a little pip from his prop. was always smooth as silk homie. but i guess everyone is different..
Unfortunately for me I guess im prone to pip from the short esters... Test p is the easiest to maintain optimal levels with in my opinion.. My fav as well.. Going to give the Sust a go since its a blend of short and long esters.. We shall see .. Or i can just man the hell up and deal with it lol
Hitman187theres a big misconception with prop, most think some sort of pip is inevitable which is false. if you have quality prop and someone who knows how to brew you can have 100% pip free prop.
had just a small small pip but but after warming and easing the oil in the muscle instead of trying to blow pump out, no more pip on anything
man in all the years i been juicing i have yet to ever heat any of my gear unless it was to uncrash it. i just always dealt w the pip lol.....but never had pip w any of raws oils whatsoever.
Think heating the gear can degrade the quality? I mean the gear is meant to stay in room temps for a reason right? I never heated gear for this reason
BendTheBarbellI've never warmed my oils but someone I knew kinda just had warm sink water in a bowl and Sat the vial in the bowl for a few minutes. Never to a temp u use for crashed gear. But I too just delt with the pip. But I never had THAT bad of pip other than the first couple times I hit my quads with the prop.
Thanks for input bro! The worst PIP in my life was my 1st cycle when my buddy pinned my ass with 1.5 ml of sust and plunged it in 2 seconds at most. Felt like I got shot with a gun no joke ha
I don't think the gear is supposed to be heated until boiling lil, I just stated what worked for me, thinning thenoil slightly and then pin. not everyday practice for me but I'd also an option that's all
Didn't mean to come off as saying you were doing anything wrong man. Was just curious about heat and degradation of gear which is probably in my head when it comes to a lil warm up before a pin in or outta the amp or 10ml vial. I'll give warming a try just cause I see so many people doing it. Thanks for the 2 cents!
yeah I'm talking about warmin up to slightly thin the oil and no to the pint you actually cooking the hormone and the oil. I'm only warming it slightly more than the warmth it gets being carrierd in your pocket. that's all, sorry if you misunderstood what I was saying. oh and don't ever shoot hot gear please.
I've just done three vials of this sources prop and I do remember a lil pip for the first few pins but it got better for me. I rotated glutes and delts and that seemed to do the trick. The benefits far outweighed the sides. I'm ordering more later this week.
BTW the pip got better when I slowed the injection. No faster than 30 seconds per Ml in the glutes and 45 to 60 seconds per Ml in the delts.
I also only use 25g pins so it slows automatically slows the plunge. I don't have enough discipline with a 23g and I'll just ram it in my accident which causes knots and extreme pip. 25g 1 1/2" for glutes and 25g 1" for delts. I won't ever do quads again.
BendTheBarbellSometimes short esters just have a little pip. U can always warm ur oils but of it's not incapacitating ...your a grown man I'm sure you will be fine lol. In all seriousness though u should add an injection site or two. I rotated from each glute to each delt to each quad and that made life better
this always helped on the prop for me as well, I'd take the hairdryer and thin the oil out and then shoot. after that's a nice hot shower did the trick. usually a little and I mean very little pip but defy nothing that incopacitated me.
LOL, appreciate it bro. Might try to warm it some.. Ill also give the quad a go.
BendTheBarbellKeep in mind. I also would take a warm shower and massage quads after pinning. If ur quads are virgin to pinning the first couple will cripple u especially if it's a leg day. Maybe I was being a puss though but my first time pinning quads was Hell.
It's not always a bad idea to take the injection post workout when there is lots of blood flow locally. This allowed me to pin quads the first with zero pain.
BendTheBarbellNot a bad idea. Will give that a shot the next time I cycle
Im about to pin now, Right quad and have a light leg day tomorrow lol.. I will let you know how it goes.. Havnt pinned the quads in years never cared for it but i have no other choice for now.. Ill make sure to update you on how it goes lol. Thanks again brother
Alright fellas. As always I need some advice. I finished up my first cycle. 12 week test only cycle of Raw's test in early May(pct till June 5th) and I've been given a lot of different opinions on this but I'd like to hear a few more. When should I look to begin my next cycle??
BendTheBarbellI like time on+pct sequels time off. I DoD consider starting earlier so time on time off but I believe it's safer to take longer periods. I'm keeping myself from wanting to hop backonby making it a goal to lose as much fat naturally first.it's tempting though man. Especially if u hAve it in a drawer staring at u everyday. Just put the vials in an airtight container store in a cool dark place and don't look at it until your almost ready.