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First time looking at purchasing Caber, is it really that expensive???? Crap! Planning a test/tren cycle. I am gyno prone. Will have Aromasin. Thinking I better prepare with caber on hand. Anyone got some good advice?
Unfortunately caber is a VERY expensive drug to manufacture and hence one of the most likely compounds you'll find that is bunk. I'm using MD's dostinex now, it's legit.
shirlsguyYes on the expensive... but one only uses half tab 2 x weekly (me anyhow) and that holds off sides just fine. I often don't even use the Cabaser or Cabergoline and do well there too. Either way, have run over a gram a week of Tren and never had need to go higher than one tablet per week. No matter what the cost, I would never want to experience leaking tits!
To me, you don't need to take the caber prophilacticly... you get a good warning for sides, but you damned sure want it on hand when they hit. I've used MD's Dostinex, absolutely fine.
Cabaser is very legit as well and much cheaper than Dostinex =) Searching MD's website for it ,website still a bit chaotic
You could use Pramipexole which is an alternative to Cabergoline and is cheaper. I would definitely not run Tren without it if you're gyno prone. Cheers !
Tren doesnt aromatise and can't cause gyno, its the test/hcg that can cause gyno (or other AAS of your running them)
Don't post shit like this...someone might listen to you. Ive seen ppl get gyno and lactate off deca/tren. who cares if its directly or indirectly?
UHHHHH... I hope to god you are not running Tren my guy. TREN CANCAUSE GYNO!! It does not aromatise to estrogen but it does cause PROLACTIN issues. Prolactin Gyno can be worse because you actually lactate Brother. Please know what your speaking about before you give advice
I'm on test/tren/mast ATM.
Tren can't directly cause gyno like test can, it can indirectly cause gyno like you said (had it myself with anavar on its own) but what I said stands correct, tren itself doesn't cause gyno.
So first you tells Steggs35 That Tren can't cause gyno and no you says it can cause gyno indirectly; what difference do you think it will make for him if he gets bitch tits directly or indirectly ?
What I said is true, tren cant cause gyno, simples.
If it indirectly causes gyno, then the tren itself doesnt cause gnyo does it... lol
Will write this again without all the mispellings :
So first you tell Steggs35 That Tren can't cause gyno and now you say it can cause gyno indirectly; what difference do you think it will make for him if he gets bitch tits directly or indirectly ?
You are correct.
Tren cannot cause gyno directly, there is no such thing as prolactin or progesterone gynecomastia, just ask any oncologist.
Aside from certain metabolic diseases,and certain medications gynecomastia can only be directly caused by estrogen, (notwithistanding the prescence of other hormones) this is a medical fact.
So if gynecomastia can only be produced by estrogen, and Tren doesn't convert to estrogen at all, how is it so many people are getting gyno from using Tren alone ? Makes no sense to me.
I remember when prohormones were legal, the PH who caused the most cases of gyno among kids was the PH version of Tren.
For the same reason that guys can get gyno from any other non aromatizing compounds.
The reason is an hormonal imbalance, i'm sure you must have heard of guys getting gyno in, or even after PCT, this happens because of the imbalance between testosterone and estrogen.
It is well documented how this occurs, most oncology journals have an in depth explanation.
shirlsguyFrom someone who has been chewed out hard and often, this should most likely move to the forum.... and you'll find some gr8 answers in there too. Trust me, a MOD will be in here before long and not as nice as me... I still have the hole where a piece of my ass was ripped out last week.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens
I agree, i didn't start it but i will finish it, lets get this back to MD, it's his page for his business.
I know, just let warmachine think he knows what he's talking about, if it makes him feel better Im happy lol.
What the hell are you talking about? So if your theory stands then well .... Test isnt really the cause for gyno either! LMFAO!!!!! Tren causes prolactin to raise in return you get Gyno, leaking nipples , lactation! Test aromatises to estro in return causes gyno... And are you comparing Anavar to Tren?! Dude just google 19 nor compounds bro.. "but what I said stands correct, tren itself doesn't cause gyno"
Really Bro????? LOL
Im not trying to sound like a dick either man... Just take the time to learn the compounds yourself ,before you start giving guys advice. someone might know less than you and take that advice. so just be careful and inform yourself!
Thanks heaps for the advice bro! Guess I should bite the bullet and get caber and run it to be safe! What dose would be enough?
Yes get caber even if youre not prone. Milk starts leaking out of your tits u will wish you had it
Warmachine is right, Tren is responsible for many many cases of gyno cause it raises the prolactin, the same goes for Deca-Durabolin which doesn't convert to estrogens but raise prolactin.
A way to see the difference between estrogen induced gyno and prolactin gyno is that the estrogen gyno causes the lump and fat deposit beneath the nipple while the prolactin gyno actually widens the nipple circumference.
all md has to do is revert to old sit ...but my offer is there as in can get all stock without pissing around
I could go to another source as well, but due to the fact that MD has given me advice and help BEYOND ordering, I am going to wait till the site is back up and running 100%.
Needed advice on a cycle and MD was the only one that responded with details I needed.
Dude we get it. You are annoyed at the site downtime, but be fair it's not like your dealing with amazon here. You talk about going to another source - good do that. You should have more than one source you trust anyway given that sources can shut down without notice. You are also moaning that it interrupted your cycle... who's fault is that exactly? I've never met anyone even remotely clued in about steroids who decided to plunge into a cycle without having everything they need on hand.
Please give it a rest. It's really, really annoying. The source discussion is intended for grievances and praise to reach the supplier as well as existing and potential customers. Not for someone to moan about a site being offline for a couple of weeks.
Thank god someone could be bothered to reply To this attention seeking child. @john67 Don't worry sir MD will get you're £20 supplement to you as he can.
Move on one gives a shit. I'm sure for every person leaving MD 10 new customer come to the king!
The p&p costs more than your item!
im off to a new source .. had enough of the waiting game .. there are lots of legit sources out there that dont give this bad service
Hi mate, I am sorry for all the extended delays, but I am not telling you to sit around and wait for me to take your order. As much as I would like to sort you out, I simply cannot process any orders until a few final things have been finished with the site.
By all means you should try another source. I can even recommend some great UK sources to you; 101fitnesspharma & GymChemist are both mates of mine and I can vouch for them, give them a try if you are in need of products immediately! They will provide a similar service to that of what I provide.
Not exactly sure what you are getting all worked up about here though, as I have not even taken your order! I have simply stated that work is being done on the new site and I regretfully cannot take any orders at present. I know the delays have gone on and on and it's been 2-3 weeks now, for which I apologise again, but anyone will tell you that I strive on providing the best possible service I can to everyone, which you would already know if you have ordered from me before!
I'm here on eroids every day and always answer to everyone's enquiries, so if you have any questions then shoot me a PM mate ;)
NOW THIS IS A SOURCE AT ITS BEST !! MD THIS IS WHY WE LOVE YOU ! RECOMMEND SOME OTHER SOURCES ON YOUR PAGE ! NOW WE ALL KNOW ITS ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE !