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Big_Ape's picture

Like Big Tone, I use 23x1.5 but I go in from top. About an inch out from the end of your clavicle, straight down. This gets it deep behind the muscle.

Big Tone36's picture

Well I'm a juice head and was time to shoot my masteron and didn't want to stick myself twice so I shot it all together. You gotta use 1.5 inch 23g in the side delt, go deep it will not leak. I always shoot all my juice the same time. If I'm running 3 compounds I'll shoot 1 ml of each e.o.d. or e3d or twice a week depending on what I'm running. I don't believe in micro dosing or insulin pins or any of this new methods. You will never notice a difference micro dosing Ed or shoot full ml every other day. This is silly to me and many guys disagree but this is how it's always done for decades and always worked so why change. You can't re invent the wheel

vengar's picture

If that were true then why the hell are these trannies absorbing 25% more SC vs IM. Because they're trannies, is that why BigTone?

Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Is an Effective and Preferred Alternative to Intramuscular Injection: Demonstration in Female-to-Male Transgender Patients

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/7/2349/3098651

The median SC dose used in our patients was 75/80 mg per week, which is lower than the typical dose of 100 mg per week (or 200 mg every 2 weeks) recommended for IM dosing (1). Previous studies also indicate that therapeutic serum concentrations of T can be attained with lower doses when T is administered subcutaneously rather than intramuscularly (10–12).

Big Tone36's picture

You just proved my point with your last blood test compared to mine. You were 925 from 200mg subq I was 787 from 100mg sustanon intramuscular. I wish you posted free test and bio availability like my test was so I can prove you wrong even more. Fk your tranny article, I'm so happy you and I post bloods and this proves to me and everyone here my intramuscular injection is more effective there's many factors we both can argue like quality of the gear and injection time and so on but this is a great comparison that both you and I post.

vengar's picture

My last blood tests @125mg all scored between 1007 -1159. You conveniently picked my one bad test to make your point. If you have tests done on cyp we could compare, I agree many other factors involved. I'm here to research not to argue.

Big Tone36's picture

I have a blood test too at 125mg test enethate you can check it out as well. It was capped at 1500. I scored >1500. By the way I didn't conveniently pick your "bad one" it was the first to come up but it was juice from the same src both reputable manufacturers. Thanks for the debate. All I can say is try a i.m. injection next blood test see if it compares different for you. Also my very first blood test posted you will see 2 readings. 1168 and 705. 705 was 100mg Watson cyp 3 days after injection

vengar's picture

Fair enough. I'm looking over your tests now and they are all over the place and lack consistency, you have to admit. If properly dosed, no one scores >12X off 125mg then hits only 1088 off what, 200mg..?

Big Tone36's picture

Well if you read correctly the 1088 was 6 days after a injection of 250mg test enethate. Nothing is inconsistent with my testing you just have to read. I will say I was surprised by the >1500 from 125mg I did contact that src back then because it fkd things up with my doctor because I was off the chart because I shot half a ml of test 250 but I tell no lies. Anyway keep doing your things how you want.

vengar's picture

I did read it correctly. Here's your exact words for the test score of 1088: https://www.eroids.com/pics/labs-i-promised-to-put-the-doubters-to-rest

I conducted my study while on my trt cruise of 200mg pharma cyp for 6 weeks followed by 2 more weeks of XXXX test Test E 250mg per week.

Then you did another test on 500mg 10 days later and only scored a lousy 1169. Your tests are inconstant and your draw timing is terrible.

Big Tone36's picture

Obviously you can not read you are wrong again. You need to give up brother. The 1168 score was taken in 2016. The fkn date is on the paper. And 1168 was 10 days post 500mg injection of a Ester with a 5-7 day half life so at peak that number was probably double. The 1088 score was 2018, also clear as day if you fkn read it, that was 6 day post 250mg injection of the same src's test e. I did this because all these fkrs were questioned his test calling it garbage so I posted 2 blood test 2 years apart of his product because I was tired of them assholes just like I getting tired of your b.s. too. If your gonna call me out. You better know what the fk your talking about, now go back a read a again. Wise ass. My drawing time is what it is but I tell everyone the facts in the post if you fkn READ

Big Tone36's picture

Also just to be clear, my original post about this shit I never mentioned subq injections of trt. I was talking about shooting intramuscular injection with a insulin needle designed for subcutaneous injection smart guy. They probably did this study you posted in that article because the pussyboys (really women trying to be men) probably have no muscle tissue and can't handle a fkn 22g or 23g in any muscle group. Anyone who wants to be a Trans is a confused, mental patient and such practices should be illegal. It's a crime against humanity

Big Tone36's picture

Like I said here they come with these stupid articles, So why since the invention of testosterone to this very day when you receive a prescription do the doctor prescribed 22g syringe for intramuscular injection? Why does every bottle prescribed say "intramuscular injection only" ? Why? Because the doctor's and pharmacologist have it wrong? No,, I tell you why because it's the better method. My testosterone inject is absorbing just fine. I a bodybuilder blasting 3 compounds at a time I won't post it here because it's not from this src but go look at my latest blood test posted at a TRT dose . I rather not shoot my gear Ed in a baby dose with a lump of oil under my skin. Have fun with that and the pussyboy trannies. If this b.s. study is true (which it is pointless imo) your blood result is 750 from 100mg or 800 from a Subq 75 mg you'll never know, never feel any different or never build more muscle from this. I want you to shoot 9 cc of oil under your skin this week and tell me how it goes buddy

Big_Ape's picture

They don't absorb 25% more, and it doesn't say that.

indicate that therapeutic serum concentrations of T can be attained with lower doses when T is administered subcutaneously

Meaning that it is released quicker. Not that 25% becomes somehow trapped in the depot or is otherwise unavailable.
I don't care what people choose to do, but your statement was erroneous, and not what the study said

vengar's picture

The study literally says 75/80mg SC is the equivalent of 100mg IM. (96.6%) had values in the normal range using an SC dose 25% less than the IM group.

And now you're ad libbing and trying to say its due to a "quicker release" when nothing in the study supports that. If it were do to a quicker release they would of had a drop off at day 4. Read the whole study before you comment.

T were measured 3 to 4 days after the fourth or subsequent SC injection

Big Tone36's picture

Never said Subq injection don't absorb. Obviously if you inject something into the body your body will absorb it. But will you inject 9ml of oil a week this way and not have pain or possibly infection? Try it let me know.

Big Tone36's picture

Molonin you fk I solely blame you for this lol. This morning I'm taking my injection of cut mix, primo, and sustanon deep in the ass cheek and I feel slight uncomfortablness after the first cc so I thought about your edit and I pulled back and boom! Blood in my barrel, I was right in the fkn vein! 15 seconds go by and you can feel it, if this didn't happen to me 100 times before in the past one might think they're having a heart attack lol. All good though I pulled out , squirted out the blood and stuck my other ass cheek to finish. Talk about tasting the gluacol you can feel it in the lungs.

Big Tone36's picture

I said it 100 times. Androgens receptors are in deep muscle tissue. Shallow injection risks infections and people complain about pip alot and want to point fingers at the src. Why not try injecting deeper with a intramuscular syringe prescribed for oil instead of baby insulin pin prescribed and designed for subcutaneous injection under the skin. SMH common sense is a thing of the past I suppose

DeeMan's picture

And honestly I thought I was the only one that went by that type of thinking about not reinventing the wheel. Man all these newer compounds and dosing theories. Hell to each their own. Guess I'm too old school

Big Tone36's picture

Syntex was the original pharmaceutical brand to produce masteron no longer in production not a source. I'm telling a story not comparing products

Big Tone36's picture

Ketamine is a substance not a src! Tron talking about talking hits of Lysergic acid staring at his asshole smoking weed at the same Dame time lol how am I cross pointed. I love molonin that my boy but flag me if he feel like being eroids police if he think I truly violated. I won't be mad but I'm not editing my story from 16 years ago

Big Tone36's picture

I think it can yield benefits for what they are researching it for. I lfavor the idea over harsh ssri anti-depressants with many side effects

DeeMan's picture

Nahh I think you should be good. Didn't see cross post.
Hahaha man I laughed so hard about what you just said about Tron. Damn that dude a trip! Hahahaha

DeeMan's picture

He's mad at me and not speaking. In the middle of the night he will break his silence lol. That's probably why Rusty lil bitty fiesty rascal ass been ignoring me too. Haha

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