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Maybe try sarms?
Why run gear?
This.
I really don't get the reasoning bro..
You would get better and constant stealthy results with a low test dose for how long you wanna run that shit than a 30 days cycle of idk how many mgs of var...
"I don't want to get big too fast"
Damn, wish I had that problem bro
Dude that CN var is fucking nuts bro.
I haven't read any of the discussions in this thread lately but I ordered up more AP on the promo. My last 2 orders with BC were flawless and I received in less than 2 weeks
Thought u went Mia on us
Super busy with other stuff
I received my last two orders within 2 weeks as well. Also got in on the AP promo AGAIN and hoping my latest order ships soon.
For guys that actually know what their talking about an not just parroting stuff they heard, for compounds that reduce shbg to free up more test like proviron, would that theoretically increase estrogen more so on cycle than without? More test more conversion right?
Aromasin lowers shgb and obviously lowers estrogen as well
SHBG binds to both test and estrogen, although it binds more strongly to test. So in theory if shbg is lowered then it would allow more unbound test as well as unbound estrogen to circulate. Although it doesn't necessarily translate into higher estro because the binding capacity does not always increase.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9749416/
I've never been a fan of proviron as any form of estro control, its effects are weak at best imo.
bigmurphActually Proviron helps control estrogen. Its the main reason I use it. Sometimes I can get away with just taking 50mgs of Proviron a day and have no estro problems. I still keep aromasin on hand but yeah its great for free up test and helping reduce estrogen
I think you would also have to go the natural route to test that theory out. Provi actually has ai properties so that would lower your estro even though it would free up more test. Tbol and winni can free up more test by lowering SHBG but these are "dry" compounds so even though your SHBG is lowered and free test is increased your estro is not increasing, i.e. the "dry" nature of these compounds. May have more to do with total test and the body reaching homeostasis with that then the fee test levels.
So your saying get bloods off cycle only on provi. I can't believe no one has asked this question before, couldn't find anything on it
Problem is people can test both free and total testosterone while they only check total (bound) levels of e2. That doesn't tell you how much free (unbound) estro is circulating
Provi will likely reduce your estro but elevate your free test. Many people can crash their estro with provi while using just a trt dose of test.
Really, one would think it would raise it due to more test being available for conversion
That's what I think as well contrary to everything I've read. Personal experience with the compound had me breaking out a lot in acne on my delts and biceps. My prostate pain was unreal. That was on TRT doses of prop and proviron as an AI. On 1g of test e a week, I get the occasional pimple on my traps. I also had a gyno flare but that was roughly three months after a heavy deca run so I can't point fingers.
THIS right here exactly is my point and my experience right now which is why I asked for experienced ppl an not what ppl just read. I wish there was a real study on this
bigmurphI actually have the exact opposite effect pez does i actually get less acne if any and have my estro under control
It has to be a person by person situation
My last 2 cycles were 500mg, ad 600mg TestE / week. Took 50 mg provi daily during both cycles. Kicked 1 with Dbol, one with prop. Week 6 bloods had my E2 at 200 and 180. Provi didnt provide ai properties for me. I wasnt having any noticeable sides however. I still like provi, just dont cosider it an AI at all from ly experience.
Your right its not a ai the ai properties it has def aren't enough for anyone to run no ai
https://www.eroids.com/pics/holyshit-my-estrogen-5-weeks-in-blood-results
Just letting you guys know, I'm on 500mg/wk GP test E cycle and pulled bloods around week 5. It's definitely NOT underdosed. I did not receive the CN batch.
Cheers
Good to know..thanks.
I think Naps might be taking the weekend off - please get to my PM when you can.
JoneDoeHey NAPS can you get back to my PM I sent you over two weeks ago.
Anyone know if naps is now an official re seller of pharmacom? as they are now selling the whole pharmacom line on they're website here.
I asked pharmacom they said they didn't know anything about it
Unless you talked to Frank you did not talk to pharmacom labs I didn't pm a reseller.... and I'm telling you what he told me some customers who are not authorized/official resellers buy in bulk and pharmacom does not always know where the products go. If the products are legit (I personally don't doubt it) they will authenticate on the PL site.