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So with clomid only what is combating estrogen rebound???
Arimidex sorry shoulda said that but as far as SERMs clomid only
cool buddy was just curious ;)
I meant to say same protocol as murph with AI and clomid. .5 Arimidex EOD and 100/100/50/50 clomid
Where this article at?
Naps blog section
Thanks man
I've read as much in the past, that tamoxifen should only be used to treat gyno flare ups, not prevent them. Nor should it be administered with PCT, and never alongside a 19 nor.
bigmurphThe 19nor and Nolvadex thing is from a medical report that was found to be false supposedly
Its true it shouldn't be run as an ai its not meant for that. Im reading in that blog that during a pct run it actually raises the estrogen levels by some crazy 300% number. I didn't like reading that im thinking about leaving it lut of my pct this time around
RustyhookerIt is a false report. I made a forum and cited it i believe.
bigmurphI agree my last cycle I ran Nolvadex and npp no problems at all.
What was it supposed to do if you ran it together do you remember what the sides you were supposed to experience were?
RustyhookerIve had no problems. But everyone reacts different. Or no bloods and just blames an item. Blood tests will clear the mind.
I distinctly remember reading that using tamoxifen alongside a 19-nor can strengthen the steroid's affinity to bind to the progesterone receptor and activate it. High progesterone leads to an increase in estrogen.
But this has been debunked, huh?
bigmurphYeah I have read that the study that this came from was flawed for whatever reason. I will be honest it was awhile back there was a big conversation about this. It might have been rustys post about it. I don't really remember the details
72enbolonewhat do you mean run aromasin then clomid why dont you run it together as pct?
bigmurphHave you ever done this I've heard about it but have no personal experience actually running aromasin during my pct.
I always thought it was a little backwards to run a strong ai during your pct when you are trying to bring all your numbers back to normal including your estrogen. I always figured I would end up crashing my estro during my pct making me feel even worse.
RustyhookerBlood group
Aro keeps estro down. Just because cycle stopped doesnt mean the gear stopped converting. High estro will stop your pct recovery. So does high prolactin. Aro also increases igf1.
I ran....many times
Clomid 100..100...50..50
Nolva 20...20..20...20
Aro 6.25 ed at evening
bigmurphIm going to try it see how it goes of spoke with kapsize about this also. I have always kept using it for 2wks just when starting clomiphene and Nolvadex dropped it. Im going to run it for 4wks with my protocol at the lowest like you said 6.25.
There's alot of articles out there saying that the strong ones like aromasin and Letrozole can be run for PCT because of the effects on raising LH and FSH , but then they go on to stipulate they aren't the best choice because of what you said that it really lowers estrogen and the point of PCT is to get all hormones back to normal levels.
What's up with this new Hilma brand? Anyone tried?
I've tried their proviron and anavar. Both of which I felt were severely underdosed or possibly not even containing said compound at all
bigmurphThats interesting
How long ago was this?
Recent?
Did you pick up overseas or domestic?
bigmurphHaven't tried but I have been offered it by src in india . Im surprised it popped up on naps. There based in india from what I know they are actually a real pharma company that provides products to smaller countries outside of India.
I can't back that up with facts only what I was told by someone in india.
Im interested
NotNatural23anybody get a pm answered? it has been 2 weeks for mine
Just ordered a bunch of GP Test E sachets. I guess I couldn't stay away for too long.
RustyhookerIm still waiting for tax return then get a few items.
bigmurph.
bigmurphJust wanted to gauge shipping time
I was wanting to write a review on naps but when I click on the green highlighted area saying I agree it doesn't do anything.maybe I'm doing something wrong if anyone knows could they let me know how to do it
If you're using your phone, you have to go to your browser settings and click the check box that says "request desktop site". It does it to me on my phone all the time and when I do that, it works.