Picture: With no Test and estro does that make me gender neutral?

posted Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:42

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+ 1 With no Test and estro does that make me gender neutral?

CRAAAAAP!!!!

Latest bloods since I've stopped HCG --- I have the hormone levels of a 95 year old man.
The good news is that everything still works down below just fine, though I'm definitely not the one initiating these days.

If you check my last posts I list the PCT protocol and stats etc.

Gonna pick up some more HCG this week and
run @ 500 a day for a couple weeks along side Clomid and Nolva -

Any of you have a pituitary gland you wanna lend me?

Ordered from:

eroids.com

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MegaT883
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09/10/2015 - 21:39

Your shutting yourself down from the amount of HCG you did. Look there are 2 main things that cause negative feedback. Testosterone levels that are to high and estrogen levels to high. You had both in your last blood test before this one. You want E2 levels in the 20's during PCT and Testosterone levels in the 400-700 level to prevent this from happening.

The previous blood test proves your nuts can produce Testosterone. Your problem is you have a signaling problem. Doing more HCG is not going to correct that. It's going to have the opposite effect and and shut you down after the HCG is discontinued which is what has happened. What you want is LH signaling. Natural LH signaling. SO you need clomid for that or any compound that stimulates natural LH production. NOT MORE HCG.

So you did massive amounts of hcg and now your doing Clomid and Nolva. Is that correct? If so your Clomid and nolva are BUNK as they are not stimulating LH or FSH production not with levels of .14 and.20 . If your doing 100mg of clomid your levels should be pegged right now and at minimum in the reference range.That may be the reason your PCT is Failing.

Now if your feeling like total crap then you can do 500IU of HCG E3D this will raise your Testosterone level to 400-600 level. This is just a temp fix till you can get some new Clomid and Nolva.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2004-0802

K.Bear210
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MegaT883
09/11/2015 - 17:26

Thanks for the feedback bro. very helpful!

I got my Clomid and nolva from the pharmacy, However I do not live in western country so its possible the dosage is poor IDK.
But the HCG and aromasin I use is from the same pharmacy, however they are imports not manf. in country.

I was thinking to bump clomid up to 150 for a week and run the HCG like you suggested... then test again. thoughts?

humpnpump
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09/10/2015 - 08:41

Run your hcg and after starting your serms add this in, it will stimulate natural LH
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/dsip-delta-s...

Dangerdave88
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09/10/2015 - 05:36

How long after stopping pct did you get bloods?

If it was me... I would blast the living shit out of HCG and try to kickstart your LH and FSH. 2500-5000iu 2x in a week, 5 days after the last shot of HCG start serms and a good test booster.

If you did everything right and your pct products were good then you might have cooked your Hpta and need trt bro.

flacidego
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09/10/2015 - 04:23

I'd run the HCG first and then start nolva and clomid. You don't want to use HCG while using those as it's counterproductive. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, or please explain your reasoning. I wish you much luck with recovery either way. The fact you can still rise to the occasion at this point is beyond my comprehension.