+ 4 USRoids IGF-1 Before and After
6’2” – 215lbs – ~12–13% bf
On cruise: 250mg test + 2mg retatrutide
No orals, no other AAS
Started HGH at 2.7iu/day on July 29th → bumped to 5.1iu about a week before bloods.
Bloods were pulled just under 4 weeks at August 20th, AM pin, fasted, drawn 3 hours later.
First run with GH. Honestly expected a bigger bump, feels a little underwhelming and im slightly disappointed because I bought almost 1500IU of this stuff. Probably tested too soon after the jump, but figured I’d be over 200 by now. Running another test in ~2 weeks which will show 4 full weeks at 5.1iu.
Everything else checks out (T3/T4, etc). Side note: dreams have been wild, never had that before. Only weird side is sore nips if I press on them—no itch, burn, or puff. Prolactin went 13 → 18.5 so I hopped on Nolva just in case(right after bloodwork done). Couldn’t find much linking GH to nip sides, so maybe it’s just from jumping up in dose?
Anyone else run into this? Appreciate any insight on the numbers or sides.
Update: @keytech has been nothing but professional and quick to address the hiccup. He’s making it right and making sure I’m taken care of.
Just want to be clear, this post was never meant as an accusation, just me sharing bloodwork and getting feedback/ideas from the community. Appreciate all the input, and also respect that @keytech stood up and handled things the right way.
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itszoot89not at all brother lol!!!! I actually appreciate the advice man I looked up what you said and you're absolutely right- it does cause prolactin issues. Atleast I know HgH is working... in a way lol!
Tru,
Aight my fault for that. Not to be a dick but just when i try an help someone who's not as far along as me. Then they try and make me feel dumb it pisses me off. Which is why i stopped sharing allot.
And my father worked out my uncle. They used to take me to the gym wheen i was in 5th grade. Lol.
And there's allot of ppl on this forum who like sharing info. But they have no progress to show for it. And idk about you but I'm gonna listen to someone i wanna look like. Not someone who don't even look or they workout. But waste money n gear and gh. Then read evening they can get their hands on to try and talk like they know their shit. Which they might know it book wise. Yet they don't know how to put it to use, cuz they have no experience in the field.
I'm ranting. Lmaoooo
Bro I've seen test of geno pens that had. 3% dimer and 95% pure. And they weren't even 36iu.
It was 34iu.
There generics with no dimer 98-99% purity almost all are 97-98% and they're always a few iu more than what is stated.
How many people going to the pharmacy test their hgh. How many people using generic ugl do. So they have higher standards of you think about it.
This argument is like saying munjaro that's 600 for 5mg of tirz is better than generic tirz. That's 10mg and 99% pure yet cost 80 dollars.
But the pharma gh guys argument will be you ever try pharma, well you don't know what it feels like so how can you tell me.
Yet they stand up for k4L which is no diff than the hgh you got and probably from the same manufacturers. And wouldn't doubt if they aren't the same batch.
Is like the ego thing with little guys buying big guns to make up for their little gun in their pants.
And you can see this scenario in everything with brand name and generic. Your simply paying for the name.
So i think your hgh is g2g all the way. And if for some funny reason is not is probably got damaged in the mix.
Ive read a lot of posts on X where bodybuilders, doctors, and longtime users of GH say that IGF-I levels can be unreliable in determining whether your GH is good or not.
exactly there are hundreds of discussions in many forums, where IFBB pro, doctors and athletic trainers have been arguing about the topic for over 20 years now, saying that the IGF-1 test is not reliable.
I've seen that too.
The end of the day. All this shit just helps a little. Good training and number 1 genetics is the most important.
wise words, I couldn't have said it better
High purity and low dimer means nothing it ifs partially or fully biologically inactive. Which HPLC from Jano can’t test for. That’s the missing piece of the puzzle that explains why we have repeatedly seen guys with embarrassingly low IGF-1 levels on hGH that is testing at 95+% purity and overdosed. This isn’t an isolated incident.
Real pharm grade products can be up to 20% under or overdosed. So I believe someone tested some genos and it was only 34iu. But atleast with genos you know they are 100% biologically active. Better than 10iu UGL vials with 14ius in there that’s 75% inactive so you’re only getting 4ius per vial.
Tru,
Lucky for me. I was born with genetics. So i don't need any growth hormone. Lol
Our GH compared to other Chinese ones is very biologically active, we also have SDS tests on it
That’s awesome man. And the price is killer at .62 an IU. Like I said to him, you can run 3x the amount and still be paying less than half you would for pharm grade.
If you want to put this to bed send me a few weeks worth at 4iu a day, I have consistently tested over 400ng/ml on that dose of high end UGL and pharm grade GH over the last 12 years. You can go look through my pics. If I’m close to or over 400 then I’ll eat my words and we can say there’s no issue with the bio activity of it. If I’m way under like this dude then we can admit there’s something off. Which again I’m not saying is a huge deal since you’re selling it for .62 cents an IU. Nobody should be expecting near pharm grade results at that price.
There is no need to triple any dose, send me your address via email or pm here, and I will send you some gh, you can do all the tests you want
email with subject "irongame427"
Will do bro.
Hey. I buy big guns and have a small penis but I dont do it to compensate. I’m proud of my micro penis. My wife swears she likes it too.
Lmao
Definitely strange. I know you aren’t on any orals but did you happen to get any liver function tests just to see? Outside of that individual response can vary, but would still expect much more from 5IU.
For me, same brand 2.5IU had me in the 300s.
on me 2iu at 320ng
itszoot89You’re right about expectations. I’m pretty bummed out.
If I were in your shoes I would probably buy a single kit from elsewhere and pull more labs after a few weeks on that one, and/or send a couple of the goldtrope vials out to jano.
This way you can hopefully assess if it’s something in your biological response, or something with the GH. I know it’s annoying to spend more money but look at it as spending a couple hundred to hopefully save the grand you already dropped on the goldtrope.
itszoot89I wish I had funds to send to janko- will probably buy a kit from elsewhere and have to retest. Or at very least double my dose and see what happens ..
Yea idk I think it should be higher on that dose
itszoot89It should be much higher I agree !