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+ 2 UPDATE 22yrs old @ 256lbs Half month

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Here is a half of the month update
i changed certain regiment up a bit the Clenbuterol mixed with anadrol was not working to good in my gut when powering through workouts so i decided to alternate between the two compounds clenbuterol for 2 weeks than anadrol @ 200mg ED for two weeks, in this update i am using Clenbuterol, i begin anadrol next week. Also i finished loading up with 30g of creatine last week this week i am running maintenance @ 20g, 5g in the morning 10g pre workout and 5g post workout.
Overall i am happy with the current standings i am doing 750mg of test a week i see no need to bump up yet on it, i am going to begin tren enanthate later on in the cycle. Also i have been taking vitamin C pre & intra workout for cortisol level management but likely wont see results until it fully saturates into the muscle, Overall i have gained 11LBs in 2 weeks, i stand at 256lbs i hope to hit that 270 soon!

seeker24's picture

How's the workouts been going?

joebig517's picture

Hows the weigh gain going then mate you on course to hit that 270 mark.
May the muscle gods grant thee mass LOL looking good mate.

BigE89's picture

bro i had to take a week break due to working 12hrs daily i dont want to burn myself out i am currently sitting at 265lbs i am resuming my training today i will post an update shortly

but id like to add that after these breaks i come back bigger and stronger feels like my muscles have completely recovered & restless to grow (:

shrapnel's picture

Can't wait to see how you turn out hoss!

seeker24's picture

How tall are you?

BigE89's picture

Between 5'10" and 5'11" haven't checked in a while but around their

seeker24's picture

Wow that's straight beastin

jhendo's picture

Dam bro you definitely have genetics on your side.. Looking like a straight monster and at a young age... + 1

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BigE89's picture

thanks bro, but i train with a damn passion lol ive also been using the FST7 (and sometimes 5 lol) techniques but not for one muscle group but rather for all muscle groups and pretty much through every different exercise.

jhendo's picture

I have no doubt in my mind that you train like a mad man bro.. Keep gettin it!

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NYMoto1's picture

Looking Good Bro, Question why are you using Clen in what seems like a bulking cycle?

BigE89's picture

yes using clen for various reasons; but the main reason i use it is for its inhibition in myostatin hormone in muscle, while im not sure the dosage accordingly to have an effective drop i do feel clenbuterol is making a difference in energy levels, concentration and overall tolerability of sets in the workout that in itself justifies my means to use it while bulking

shrapnel's picture

This is an interesting study. have you followed it other than this article? One thing that would concern me is the long term use / side effects of using a long term thermogenic/ fatburner. ... but if cycle properly wouldn't be too bad but i do believe they inhibit muscle growth in some ways too..... Be interested in knowing the rest of your studies....

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i have read multiple articles on this theory but i really havent seen anyone else try this so i decided to give it a go, as of today my weight is 261lbs i havent really gained any bf i imagine its because of the Clenbuterol but only after 2 weeks of use i seriously doubt any myostatin levels have been impacted although i will say myostatin is a hormone that both drops and elevates very slowly their is no immediate rebound effect,regardless i like the intensity Clenbuterol gives. Now because of the nature of Clenbuterol this was my last week on it now for 2 weeks im jumping on 200mg of Anadrol ED this should really bump me up to 270lbs afterwards im jumping back on Clenbuterol for another two weeks etc., Once i hit the point where i begin Trenbolone i plan on using peptide GW501516 for greater endurance and powder and one of the three myostatin inhibitors Follistatin 344,ACVR2B (ACE-031) or Myostatin HMP without TAGS, ive been following the PM forums of people running two doses of myo HMP and gained 20lbs of mass in one month although this sounds outlandish this guy recorded day by day improvements with pictures its a VERY promising antibody, regardless i would be happy with a solid 10lbs of mass ontop of my current weight, i think myostatin reduction along with a solid hormone regiment can push a physique to the next level.

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plus bro when i bulk i tend to store a lot of fat, thanks to clenbuterol i have been able to keep my abdominal fat in check i look to create dense muscle not a dense gut.

NYMoto1's picture

Yeah I hear ya on that but when bulking ya gonna put on the fat. I must research Clens inhibition in myostatin hormone.

BigE89's picture

http://www.ergo-log.com/myostatinclen.html
if you can make good sense of this article you'll realize Clenbuterol gets normal mice pretty darn close to Myostatin "knockout" mice with the deficiency gene, and those knockout mice when administered clenbuterol...the skies the limit.

Fullypumped's picture

Lol WTF...

manbearpig's picture

looking huge!

dieseldup's picture

some great mass, nice and thick bro.

dc9616's picture

200 mg of anadrol !! Lls

joebig517's picture

Nice shot mate really shows the thickness youve attained not too watery prob the clen eh and when you've got the tren on board aswell that will be crazy 270 will be on the way no doubts, ive not used tren yet myself ive mates that have/ do and its powerfull stuff dont think ive needed to use it yet not that advanced, but in the future i will have a go prob acetate so if im no good on it itl be out the system fast.. but thatl be some time away, im not training for mass or on cycle at the moment just maintainance training as much as possible as ive herniated a disk lowest one im my back its quite a draw back(L5/S1) so discectomy surgery in 5 week then a few months to recover... get back to working out gradually and then get back on course ASAP gonna run some anavar at 40-50mg ed for 8-10wk, test E 375mg for 12 weeks E5th day i think and 250mg deca E5th day hopefully help me get back to strength literaly with the increase in collagen synthesis from var and the joint help from Deca and obviously to bulk up aswel. Ive used good quality oxys before and i love em at 50 mg i noticed good gains in size and strength no sides actually enjoyed the feeling on them and 100 mg was ok aswel great pumps in the gym i like Anadrol more than dbols personally.
What creatine do you find works best? I use ethel ester and i cant compare it to other ones as its only one ive used i want to know if its worth the extra cash as mono hydrate is cheaper and there are other forms whats your thoughts?

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bro first time i used tren it was enanthate im not much of an acetate user unless its for competition i believe it'll just be a waste of money; Enanthate will save you money and results. Aside from possible night sweats, insomnia, breakouts, DHT related effects on hair follicles; its nothing some Temazepam, a good fan, benzoyl peroxide, vitamin E toco & some DHT binding shampoo cant fix beyond that point their aren't many reported issues concerning its acetates long brother enanthate, their are safe ways to using compounds and a way to treat every possible side effects if in fact it becomes an issue for you, i think people shy away from the possibility of fixing the symptoms and become scared to use the hormone, this will take away from your goal and success my friend. Also i have a kinked lower back disk as well when i was 18 i dead lifted 480lbs got it up with horrible form, today when i do high sets of deadlifts i feel nerve pain on my lower right back and shock pulses down my right leg it sucks bro. Dont overdo the deca overtop the test remember deca is a progesterone now this particular type of progesterone stimulates prolactin, prolactin is the hormone that washes over your body after you orgasm giving you the feeling of relaxation and ultimately killing your hard on, so in essence deca causes a prolonged release of prolactin making it harder to get errections, you gotta do testosterone atleast twice over the amount of deca to counteract effects, and stop deca about 1 month before testosterone cycle is over to drop the levels of progesterone in your system, equipoise has always been compared to deca in both results and strength gains but lacks that progesterone interaction maybe this could be a better route, plus eq stimulates a hormone release in the kidneys that make you feel hunger, my guess its the hormone ghrelin but im not sure. Ethyl Ester Creatine is powerfull very fast acting compared to mono but also carries a hefty price tag, personally i enjoy mono hydrate it does what its supposed to and its easy on my wallet so i can cycle it year round without a problem, mono is just slower at adsorption and action vs ethyl ester, where youd need 20g of creatine mono to load youd probably only need 10g of creatine ethyl ester and 5g to maintain its that much better at absorption, so less to do the job, also if you use creatine mono youll want to spike your insulin level people like using dextros sugar to bump up insulin for creatine mono transport into muscle.

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yeah mate im hearing you on the Tren E vs Acetate when you put it as you have, and ive no doubts you know what your talking about it is a costly hobby/lifestyle for sure so advice absorbed.
However Trenbolones not on the radar for the moment with me think ill work up to it for a future cycle.
I have considered Equipose in fact since i first looked into the scene of AAS and increasingly recently comparing it to Deca, its a compound ive always wanted to try for as what im looking for its got many desirable qualities ..increased appetite,strength, hard defined musclature and vascularity, this is the look im seeking after all solid defined mass with the science of certain AAS to help fix my back post surgery/ physio.
I read an interesting article on EQ being infact almost identical to dianabol in chemical structure but for the 17-alpha-methyl group alteration, it was (as you may well know)originally designed to be an injectable long release form of Dbol but turned out very different in its effects quite interesting, ive also read that it shares similar benefits in joint lubrication and collagen synthesis as Deca... something ill be wanting on my side hence the Anavar included in this cycle also thinking 50mg ED for the last 8 weeks of the 12wk course im sure my back will appreciate as its also good for collagen synthesis..... hmmm scratching my head now may decide to change to Eq, would you dose it similar to Deca or does it require considerably more mg's for effect?
Just say if i did stick with Deca anyway at 250 mg E5 days and 375mg test E E5 days its gonna be too low background test to be in the safe zone i guess id have to bump it up to 500mg? Not that thats a problem the funds will be attained for whatever ill be cycling.
I dont fancy prolactin gyno issues or my dick failing to work i need this lol.
On the creatine front i think my next purchase will be in mono-hydrate form it is considerably cheaper and i have heard arguments to say that Ethel ester form isnt much better in effect/absorbsion elsewhere and i will look into the dextrose sugar to increase insulin if its gonna make the creatine more bio-available.
well thanks for the advice mate i always appreciate decent advice youve been very informative cheers mate.

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Yup equipoise was created to be a long release form of Dbol but its mechanism of action is nothing similar, maybe this will help you decided, Equipoise as well as deca is one of those hormones that should accompany a stack be it for mass gain or cutting and the foundation being testosterone, as far as anabolic and androgenic properties equipoise is derived from testosterone, it is consequently as anabolic as testosterone and mildly androgenic about half that of testosterone, deca also is anabolic about 25% higher than equipoise and low androgenic 25% lower than equipoise, both will bring on muscle gains over time nothing immediately pronounced but Deca is a bit more powerful in bringing mass while equipoise is the desired compound for more of lean muscular type quality frame, both of these hormones also can effects sexual stimulation im not sure if equipoise is through the same prolactin pathway so both should be part of a stack containing testosterone and both should be cycled at least a minimum of 12 weeks to see results, Equipoise holds a bit more water than Deca, both can be taken in the range of 250mg to 500mg a week for advanced users, personally i have never bumped above 250mg a week for these compounds but have yield steady gains with a good stack.

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I made a post last night about the similarities of deca and equipoise in regards to joint/ligament healing properties via collagen synthesis and a guy told me that for collegen synthesis equipoise on a mg for mg basis is considerably more sucessful at increasing collagen synthesis than deca at same dose, he did however state all the pros and cons of both EQ and deca and i do believe i will go with EQ now if i can get it from a good source and would like it to be 250mg per ml i know you can get it at this concentration sure ive even seen it at 300mg per ml, i gather from posts ive read that EQ of old was generally substantially lower dosed than some of the stuff from many a source nowadays, probably didnt help its rep was prob vetenary grade stuff or dirty bath mix from a second world country.
The guy did say that doses of background test when on 250mg EQ per week should be between 100 and 200 mg every week and no more as it will weaken tendons/ligaments i wasnt aware of this, so ill have to do some homework on that but if it is testosterone derived its maybee something to do with this, im aware EQ aromatizes around half the proportion that test itself does.
Do you use AI's mate and if so which is best in your opinion, i would imavine having it on hand would be sensible but its probably not necessary at this dose. Also do you not think i could run test at 250 just to keep it a simple @ 1ml in the barrel coz its pharma grade test e in amps dont like to waste and maybee run the EQ ar 300 mg per week, i dont think prolactin issues are an issue with EQ but ill have to look into that.
My idea of the original cycle i had in mind has totally changed just as well ive time to aquire coin and knowledge to fund my next course.

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while all the side benefits are good im sure your purpose for any anabolic is to bring up strength and size/conditioning to see growth you have to cycle for a certain period of time, to see these other benefits the cycle has to be even longer with this being said being sold on one product just because of additional benefits may actually be misleading towards your cause that is to build muscle. These compounds are nearly identical in effectiveness per mg basis with Deca taking a slight margin lead, the rest is just beneficiary side effects so to speak so choosing between these two compounds for your cycle wont harm or give you a great advantage over the other since these two are similar in effectiveness. On another note believe it or not i have never taken an Incendiary compound such as tamoxifen or clomiphene i dont flair up with gyno or tenderness on the nipple during or post cycle, and when i ramp off cycle i generally do not loose too much strength nor weight, so i cannot help you their my friend but generally EQ wont pose a problem with high levels of estradiol & I seriously doubt 250mg of test weekly will shut off the testicular Axis completely if the cycle is kept to a manageable degree of time. For a while i was running sustanon @ 250mg weekly with 250mg of Deca & 400mg of tren seeing amazing results soon after i dropped the deca, followed by the tren but continued the test and retained most of the gains, i did experience a loss of libido during the deca & Tren run; later experiences led me to have high libido while on Deca with double the amount of test, now i know you wanna run EQ keep on the lookout for this negative if it flairs up i recommend you up the test to double if necessary & yeah 300mg of EQ weekly is fair enough, its what i would do.

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This isn't my first experience with Anadrol, taking it alone does me good, no upset stomach or nausea but if i mix it with Clenbuterol i vomit everything almost as if from the moment i take both my stomach becomes paralyzed and mind you i take these compounds 1hr prior to lift so they reach the bloodstream, just seems like my system doesnt like the chemicle mix because taking them alone is fine... I have tried 50mg, 100mg with almost no success i dont know if its because of my weight or metabolism but once i bounce to 150mg or 200mg the effects are very pronounced, generally i do not have any mood swings or sense of my life going to hell on this compound, maybe its because i know what to expect and how to control myself, but generally i do not feel shitty or down while on it. I decided to continue Clen since i like the energetic effects among its other properties, ill try Anadrol with Ephedrine to see if i can tolerate it next week since i like pre workout stims

boots2asses12's picture

so thats what 200mg ed of abombs looks like ..

Gorillafit's picture

He looked like that before starting the A-Bombs! Who knows what he'll morph into? LOL ;-P

Gorillafit's picture

200mg anadrol? Damn bro maybe thats your stomach trouble? I get heartburn on 50mg anadrol!