posted Tue, 12/12/2023 - 21:17
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+ 2 Ultima test c results
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250mg weekly dose.
I've been skeptical about this Ultima labs now for some time. I've had issues in the past with this brand. I know others have had good results. Maybe it's a timing thing, test was taken 8 days post injection. I'm on year round. So there's no issue with reaching blood plasma leves. Been at 250 mg now for over 8 weeks. Typically 125_150 trt.
Not quite sure what to make of it
I personally haven't been happy with Ultima for awhile. A bunch of different reasons. I switched to pharmacom from the same source. Will attempt to retest after the 1st of the year.
With that being said, Osgear has been my main source since 2016. I'll continue to use the source, just going to move on from this lab and compare to another.
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Sorry. But I agree with the others. That number looks correct for 8 days
That # seems about right for an 8 day window. Everyone is different but lets just say "someone" , not u, is being prescribed trt at .8 or 160 mg a week but runs 500 mg a week instead and has to abstain or miss a shot 7 days before bloodwork at the Dr. to get normal looking trt levels on his test. Then that person tests and gets a 600 , would u says the pharma grade was ng? Remember the dose was 500 and u were 250 and the time and results were almost the same
What are you talking about lmao. This post makes no sense.
It’s simple if you take two 8’s with 160 split then throw in four day break with two more 8’s you get clear 5 and 7. Lol
Absolutely none.
Seems like everyone wants you to be wrong instead of the gear being wrong.
Thank you for warning us.
I was about 600 7 days after 200 mg of test from the pharmacy, so it seems about right. I felt Ultima was a little underwhelming as far as results go , but I didn't get bloods.
The only Ultima products I’ve had issues with was their DHB, which crashed right away and gave me serious PIP and swelling after reheating it. Their Tren Ace was also weak compared to most other sources, although I didn’t mind as much because I also didn’t get as many shitty sides as I do with some other brands. I’ve never had an issue with their Test, and their Test Prop is probably one of my favorites
Do you do subq or im? That can make a huge difference in your levels.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-on-ultima-test-c-250-from-pmroids
Those are my bloods from the same product at just 150mg/wk done IM. There's a huge difference between mine and yours. When i was doing subq this dose would put me at just over 600 ng/dl. Making no other changes besides going to IM injections i got this.
Science says there's not a big difference but some folks have reported differences in their blood scores so it's not very clear to me. It maybe an individual thing but man it's strange @DavosD as for me I prefer IM.
Yeah no it doesn't make a huge difference unless you want to go against science??
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9006970/
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/7/2349/3098651
https://www.auajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.juro.2018.09.057
@Drexyl what is your opinion on this topic? I think we spoke on this before but couldn't remember
There’s doctors that are going the sub-q route now, but it’s not for me. Personally I feel even at a TRT dose I just do better with IM injections. Being pip sensitive doesn’t help matters any lol. I’ll be sticking to IM injections until the pharma manufacturers change the instructions printed on every vial from “For deep muscular injection only.” I’ve never seen a vial that wasn’t specific about IM injection. Although on here I did see a pic of one from a ULG that said “shake well before using”, I still don’t know what that was about lol
Thanks man. Didn't mean to put you on the spot. I just kinda remember us talking about this. Yea I'm an IM injection man myself. All those tiny injections sub q lol, I'll pass.
You can say that. But my personal experience is it made a huge difference. I was even using the same vial of test.
Facts
Not good, even for 8 days post injection. I've also seen a post from ultima which had a vial with a hair in it. Ultima is a brand I stay away from honestly.
Please send the link to the post, I would like to see it.
There you go:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/warning-hair-inside-ultima-pharma-vial
BFG also responded so it's legit. The guy was not bullshitting.
This is a post from 2 years ago and is not visible if the vial is sealed. Look even the video, the top is not visible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSz2ck_6Lns
I wouldn't validate this because the top of the vial it's obviously intentionally hidden.
Doesn't matter, I still wouldn't use Ultima. The brand has too much bad rep for my taste.
Hello Sir,
Thank you for posting your test results.
From a source point of view: We don't know exactly how fast your metabolism is, specially at one shot / week, which in 8 weeks is about 8 ml of Testosterone Cypionate, less than a bottle. Definitely the numbers would have been different having 2 shots. Another aspect, these numbers are considered low in report to what exactly? Each body is acting different and there are many other factors that influence the test level.
"250 mg has put me between 1100-1400 ng/dl on previous tests." - please show us the tests and also let us know what brand you've used and what was the dosage.
"So with it being close to 570. Was a little disappointing." - again, the feedback was more or less, based on expectations which is a subjective point of view and there are many other factors involved.
We are currently running lab tests for almost all Ultima products (injectables + orals) and soon will be uploaded on our website. We'll inform here, on the board, when will be available.
Respectfully!
Semaglutide too, or should I get that tested myself when I pick up some more vials?
https://www.eroids.com/pics/recent-lab-work-with-igf-1-and-testosterone-...
This is old. Haven't posted or labs in awhile. And u agree with what you've said. I pretty much said the same thing in my added response. Many factors are at play. And yes. It was a subjective expectation. Which isn't everything in this field? I've collected previous data and applied and educated guess.
These results are for the same administration method as Ultima-Cyp?
That test is so old. I couldn't tell you. That was just for reference. If you read all my replies to others, I've only gave the data. I never claimed your product was no good or under dosed. I've even said that that many factors were at play snd that I did wait 7 days. (A correction in another reply)
I've been a loyal customer since 2016. A personal decision is that I decided to move on from this brand and use another product, ive had other issues with ultima and nikon that we have spoken about in a private message. You all have treated me well over the years, this in no way was an attempt to give a negative impression of osgear. I simply moved on to another brand, as you can see in my recent order with you. Others have had excellent success with Ultima. My experience just hasn't been the same. I'll retest with the recent brand you sent me. It may or may not be under the same protocol. No ill will intended.
Thank you for transparency and honesty.
I want to point the fact that we are impartial and we really care about our customers experiences and opinions related to the products, also, in the same time, we are fully transparent about the brands we are selling. Our responsibility is to investigate, from client to manufacturer and vice versa if there is any issue reported and that's what I'm doing.
Respectfully!
Just to clarify and add done context. I see multiple posts about 2x iweekly injections, I understand thatsxa thing and many guys prefer this in an attempt to better stabilize blood t levels over the week.
I've been taking year round for close to 8 years. Always 1x weekly. With a 7-10 day half life on a cypionate ester, I've never had any issues. A complete elimination would be likely till 4-6 weeks.
250 mg has put me between 1100-1400 ng/dl on previous tests. Although I don't remember the time between injection and test.
Knowing where 250 typically puts me, I intentionally waited 7 (not 8, correction) I wanted the dip on levels since the results are goinfvtobthe doc. Which she's fine with me around 8-900.
Which where I expected that to put me.
So with it being close to 570. Was a little disappointing. Of course there's many other factors at play.
I don't want to make the claim that Ultima is trash. It clearly has active hormone. I just personally think it's time for me to move on and try another lab and compare results. Thanks for everyone's feedback.
Yeah man I was thinking in my head something like a month or so to clear out. I think you know the answer to this post better than me or some that have replied. Don't call it trash but definitely throw it away. There's a lot of sources on this site that sell quality test. Good information though I learned something here. I also ran my TRT once a week so you def don't have to run cyp or enanthate x2 weekly
You don't HAVE to. But you'll get far more stable levels doing 2 x's a week or more compared to once a week. Go make some comparisons on www.steroidplotter.com. The more frequently you dose the more even your levels will remain.
What were your levels before getting on TRT? I got on TRT in the low 400s. I came off a few months ago and after 15 days no test I was at 670. Everybody's different I understand
8 days later? There's your problem. You dose test C and E twice a week. Once a week isnt enough. You're already metabolizing it all by day 6. I half expected to see your test zero'd out.
Next time dose and then go to lab corp the next day or two.
He's been doing this TRT dose on cypionate for a year. You think he'd be zero'd out after one week? Just asking because I'm curious. I know levels decline quickly but not that fast?
No. Complete elimination of the drug would not be atleast 4 weeks. Maybe a propionate might clear that quickly.
Yes 4 weeks. Half life of cypionate 5.5 days and some day 8. I tend to stick with 5.5 days and @NWApatches you're right, levels don't fall that fast. As far as injection once a week is sufficient with test c. Now of course the more inject the more stable the hormone
My levels are higher than that when I'm not running test. Throw it in the gutter and go try another!
I'd like to see bloods on a two shot split vs 8 day post injection. You also cold me metabolize it fast. What was your numbers on other brands?
Could be metabolizing
I have been taking the 400mg tri test and my labs are off the chart in fact my levels are way too high so I am cutting down. So that is interesting.
I belive it. Especially with the different esters and when you tested. Not saying Ultima puts out a bad product. Just a personal choice to move on. Been using Ultima for some time now. And have had few issues with thier other product that I wasn't pleased with. Little things, but enough to move on
Very interesting results I have some and thought was some of strongest stuff I have tried since Covid hit. Of course I just ordered more right before your post.
In this situation, defending Ultima would be translated into having a SEALED vial with hair in it and denying facts to defend the lab, but as you can see by yourself, the situation is not like this.
I'm totally for truth and honesty, this means no side. If I see something that is wrong, I'll just point it. If you decide to trust a photo / video that is sketchy, go for it.
If in that photo / video I would have seen the seal, that is obvious a problem. But since in both the photo and video the seal (which GUARANTEES that the hair was not placed there intentionally or by mistake) is obviously hidden, I can't trust it. It's not an obvious proof.